Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers

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Post #4,749 by a6l6e6x 8/12/01 2:11:11 PM Reply	Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers First, welcome to zIWeThey. I was hoping you were not left behind in the move. I agree that partisan observers are of no use. But, surely someone in this world can be objective in what they see. At this point neither side of the conflict has much credibility. Everything is spin, yours included. If all international observer are anti-Israeli, that should tell you something. And it's not that Jews have no friends. My conclusion is that Sharon knows fully well that, with more observers, the Israeli world image would suffer even more. I agree with your point about the Racism conference. They can talk about Israel and the U.S. if they want, but these belong at the bottom of list not the top. Alex Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Post #4,834 by bluke 8/13/01 3:51:19 AM Reply	Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers What did I say that was spin? You didn't answer a single point that I made. What the UN did in Lebanon is fact, they admitted that they covered up the fact that they had a videotape, they imposed conditions etc. How can you explain that there have been more anti-Israel resolutions in the UN then anyone else? The fact is that Israel is at the top of the racism conference not the bottom, tell me why? When you find thos impartial observers let me know, until then Israel can do without them.
Post #4,958 by a6l6e6x 8/13/01 9:29:46 PM Reply	Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers Well I got to see it on PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) news tonight (Aug 18, here). An unarmed Palestinian/Israeli Arab (who can tell?) protesting in front of Orient House being beaten by at least half dozen Israeli soldiers with rifle butts, fists, and when he was down on the ground being kicked. Very impressive! But, you know, I don't think their shirts were the right brown color. Yes, I can see why observers are not wanted. Alex Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

someone might want to take the tablecloth off of his head - (boxley) - (36) - Aug. 9, 2001, 10:51:43 PM EDT

I understand your anger, but more killing won't fix anything - (Another Scott) - (35) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:32:50 PM EDT

uh err that wouldnt be my way. - (boxley) - (34) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:53:30 PM EDT

Sorry I seem to have misunderstood. But... - (Another Scott) - (33) - Aug. 10, 2001, 07:06:42 AM EDT

hmm - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 10, 2001, 08:37:12 AM EDT

Hamas != Palestinian Authority just as Israel's Govt != Kach -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 10, 2001, 10:44:44 AM EDT

Re: Hamas != Palestinian Authority - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 12, 2001, 03:58:56 AM EDT

This may be the natural outgrowth of an attitude that - (Ashton) - Aug. 12, 2001, 08:56:26 AM EDT

Arafat includes Hamas as part of decision making - (bluke) - Aug. 12, 2001, 07:09:27 AM EDT

Agree with most of what you say. - (a6l6e6x) - (27) - Aug. 10, 2001, 12:02:25 PM EDT

nope both agrieved and the reason for no observers is - (boxley) - (16) - Aug. 10, 2001, 01:58:50 PM EDT

Re: Observers - (a6l6e6x) - (15) - Aug. 10, 2001, 04:00:15 PM EDT

nope they have shown their partisan face one 2 many times -NT - (boxley) - (14) - Aug. 10, 2001, 09:20:13 PM EDT

This statement from AI seems evenhanded to me. - (a6l6e6x) - (13) - Aug. 10, 2001, 11:08:46 PM EDT

even handed my ass - (boxley) - (12) - Aug. 10, 2001, 11:22:26 PM EDT

Re: even handed my ass - (a6l6e6x) - (11) - Aug. 10, 2001, 11:35:54 PM EDT

America, Britain - (boxley) - (10) - Aug. 11, 2001, 02:42:30 PM EDT

Re: Never again. - (a6l6e6x) - (9) - Aug. 11, 2001, 03:26:51 PM EDT

perhaps your definition of just coexistance - (boxley) - (8) - Aug. 11, 2001, 03:57:34 PM EDT

Re: perhaps your definition of just coexistance - (a6l6e6x) - (7) - Aug. 11, 2001, 10:16:58 PM EDT

I disagree about the settlements - (boxley) - Aug. 11, 2001, 11:13:06 PM EDT

Orient House and settlements - (bluke) - (5) - Aug. 12, 2001, 04:39:36 AM EDT

So the people in Hebron - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 12, 2001, 09:13:21 AM EDT

Re: So the people in Hebron - (bluke) - (3) - Aug. 12, 2001, 11:07:39 AM EDT

understood but disagree - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 12, 2001, 08:43:23 PM EDT

Re: understood but disagree - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 13, 2001, 03:53:02 AM EDT

It is not abandoned, just not occupied at present - (boxley) - Aug. 13, 2001, 08:44:00 AM EDT

Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers - (bluke) - (9) - Aug. 12, 2001, 04:25:24 AM EDT

Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Aug. 12, 2001, 02:11:11 PM EDT

Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 13, 2001, 03:51:19 AM EDT

Re: Why Sharon doesn't want int'l observers - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 13, 2001, 09:29:46 PM EDT

Your point, it seems... - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - Aug. 13, 2001, 09:51:56 PM EDT

just a couple of reservations dont need auswitz - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 13, 2001, 11:08:19 PM EDT

Re: just a couple of reservations dont need auswitz - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Aug. 13, 2001, 11:12:02 PM EDT

The state of Indian Health care - (boxley) - Aug. 14, 2001, 10:11:52 AM EDT

No my point is... - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2001, 12:41:45 AM EDT

A less conspiratorial answer might be, - (Ashton) - Aug. 14, 2001, 01:42:48 AM EDT

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