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New The Putin-grade purges Begin. The *King Acts.
NYT.


Impeachment Witness Alexander Vindman Fired From the White House

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, whose testimony in the House inquiry infuriated President Trump and his allies, will be reassigned within the military, officials said. “I’m not happy with him,” Trump said. Colonel Vindman’s brother was fired too.



Vengeance is Mine sayeth The Lord etc. This is #1 ..of an infinite-series.
Now there shall be NO LIMIT except.. except.. every sane person Hopes that his Inner+Outer-Nazi-Core shall soon reflect such behaviour as: Can Nail This Jello To The Wall ..... IMPEACH (or remove via countless Other Means)
(Can anyone come close to imagining..?) the suppurating core of ... his perpetual worries of Ever-being Humiliated, the 24/7 worries that some Tax- or n-Other CLEAR CRIMINAL ACTS ... shall be on a video somewhere ... and Even: find Himself in day-glo-Orange-for-fucking-Life!
(say.. he indeed hired a Hiit-Man/Woman re some pesky failed-'Deal'? He's an Expeert in failed-deals.

Now if something Odd next happens to The Speaker of the H.R. ... well, you know ... ....



Carrion.. some corpsicles would be worth buying-a-piece-of, put on mantelpiece as reminder about Biznessmen/ Any Biznessman: granted ultimate Power to lie-for-$$$ 24/7/365.

PS: Breaking: "Add Sondland"--BIG-surprise. ..as if ..he Needed the always-One-->Way ""Loyalty"" stake-in-his-Heart. Now real-people shall deem him Hero-class. Win/Lose-for-Menace; Love. It. :-)
Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 7, 2020, 05:32:21 PM EST
Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 7, 2020, 08:57:04 PM EST
New eh? fsck someone over royally and get fired? color me surprised
did he expect a promotion from president pelosi?
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New How did Vindman “fsck someone over royally,” please?
If, for example, I witness a hit-and-run, get the license plate, make & model, and phone this into the authorities, have I “fucked over” the driver?

And Vindman’s brother? What did he do that got him fired?

uncordially,
New Re: What did he do that got him fired?
Jeez, he picked the same mother and birth probably just minutes away from brother Alex.

Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Re: How did Vindman “fsck someone over royally,” please? let me adjust your model a little bit
if, for example, I witness a hit-and-run by a cop during a chase, get the license plate, make & model, and phone this into the Dept of Justice, have I “fucked over” the driver? if the cop was let off you might want to move out of that neighborhood
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Do you realize that confirms the problem, not refutes it?
--

Drew
New yes it confirms the problem, screw someone powerful over and if they are aquitted watch yer ass
Defining the problem was that trump was behaving in the same manner that he perceived that biden behaved.

Being vindictive after everyone goes after trump jr and Ivanka he thought he would show the world that the biden and heinz kids had enough dough from tagging around after Joe with their hands out.

Vindeman (I am assuming here) was appalled that foreign policy was done that way (bullshit, he speaks the language and knows the culture) and reported up the chain of command.

Either he was naive or should have done a complete Joe Friday under oath.

Either way he was gone.

It didnt help that he was lauded as a savior of the world as the very mccarthyesqe house approach of "reds under every trump bed" campaign roiled on.

It didnt help that biden then or now is not his political rival, he isnt even in the top 3 of dems.

Pelosi rightly saw impeachment as a political hit that would bite her in the ass. She was pushed into it and it may cost the party the 2020 election.

I sincerely hope that is not the caee.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New "The Problem" you are speaking of is clear:
[Long-form, lest there be any case for misunderestimating the content, too-few words? or too many hi-falutin ones?]

DO I DO? "the right thing" (as any functioning-Citizen of a non-Authoritarian Republic understands):
its ethos, folkways, mores and all that too-many-words 'granularity' thing.
as a conflicted-one tries to define-to death, "RIGHT THING®™".

-OR-

Do I put on my Tinfoil-Hat?--aka--What If I'm in my car, "surveilling" and my stop-lights come on and blow my cover ... kinda amateur-Spook-for-life persona, and:
I See that: "there's some *Risk Here! ... IF I DO The Right Thing". Some. How. something BAD might ... ... happpen to me? Perhaps a jolt of ƒeare oer'crows
[that brief dose of endorphins?] as usually accompany any Right-Thing actually DONE, eh?
* Every time you put key-in-ignition you enter the Risk-zone next. Ah-but: how Much? risk.

DECISION-tree there: so is that your Problem then? aka Is it often? ever? Door #1 or is it 'situational Ethics 101R'?
[rhetorical question, of course]
Yer not under Voir Dire in a courtroom, just here in folksy IWE-101-Professional, where the oaths are usually on Egads!-scale, even with the F-word bandied about.



Carrion: the Land of ??? Decisions, I've heard.
New Move to strike as nonresponsive
Answer the fucking question: whatever the consequences, how did Vindman “fuck over” Trump by telling the truth?

It may be that you cannot comprehend this, of course.
New which truth are you refering to?
On page 316, Vindman claims that Trump "demanded" investigations from Zelenskiy in return for military aid, but that's Vindman's opinion, not fact. He admitted that the actual words spoken during the call don't support that claim: "I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as already preconceived notions." Vindman's damning admission is found on page 256 of the transcript.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Where did you copy that from?
"Damning admission" doesn't ring all that BOxlish.
--

   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything


Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
New townhall.com Link provided.
https://townhall.com/columnists/betsymccaughey/2019/11/18/vindmans-claims-dont-hold-up-n2556671

Opinion piece from Betsy McCaughey, the former Republican Lt. Governor of NY. To get a feel for what she's like, I offer the below.
The Democrats want impeachment to disgrace President Donald Trump "for life" and tilt the 2020 election. Not if Senator Lindsey Graham has his way. Graham is proposing post-impeachment investigations by the Senate to "get to the bottom" of the Democrats' impeachment hoax. That will pin the disgrace where it belongs — on the party that dragged the nation through an unwarranted ordeal.

Meanwhile, Vice President Pence is urging the country to "acquit and move on." The Washington Post reports many Republican Senators feel the same.

Not so fast. It's not time to move on. These Senate investigations will be essential both to uncover House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff's intrigue in engineering the whistleblower complaint and to expose the solid reasons Trump had for asking the president of Ukraine to help the U.S. investigate the Bidens.

https://www.creators.com/read/betsy-mccaughey

In short, the source of the quote is a RWN.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New no, the source of the quote was vindeman
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Nice try.
Your post.

On page 316, Vindman claims that Trump "demanded" investigations from Zelenskiy in return for military aid, but that's Vindman's opinion, not fact. He admitted that the actual words spoken during the call don't support that claim: "I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as already preconceived notions." Vindman's damning admission is found on page 256 of the transcript.


RWN Opinion piece from link I provided.

On page 316, Vindman claims that Trump "demanded" investigations from Zelenskiy in return for military aid, but that's Vindman's opinion, not fact. He admitted that the actual words spoken during the call don't support that claim: "I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as already preconceived notions." Vindman's damning admission is found on page 256 of the transcript.


Eerily similar, no?
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New sigh, page 256 is npr a RWN as well now?
https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6543468-Alexander-Vindman-Testimony
I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as
already preconceived notions.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Jesus wept box
You are in troll mode.

You're not as stupid as you would like to seem.
New “You are in troll mode”
I hate to break it to you, but from Oakland this afternoon it seems pretty certain that the sun is going to set in the west later today.

cordially,
New Maybe not, but if he so desperately wants to be seen as such, why shouldn't he be despised as such?
New I was talking about the CHARACTERIZATION OF Vindemans quote, not the quote itself.
The TWO WORDS I quoted from your post were:

1) Outside the quote marks delimiting the words attributed to him, and

2) Hardly something anyone would call their own words. When did you last talk about anything you had said as a "damning admission"?
--

   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything


Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
New I would have spelled it damming, but you knew that
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Expand Edited by boxley Feb. 12, 2020, 10:13:01 PM EST
New If you watched the Dem debate in NH tonight, Vindman got a standing ovation on Biden's request.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
     The Putin-grade purges Begin. The *King Acts. - (Ashton) - (20)
         eh? fsck someone over royally and get fired? color me surprised - (boxley) - (18)
             How did Vindman “fsck someone over royally,” please? - (rcareaga) - (17)
                 Re: What did he do that got him fired? - (a6l6e6x)
                 Re: How did Vindman “fsck someone over royally,” please? let me adjust your model a little bit - (boxley) - (15)
                     Do you realize that confirms the problem, not refutes it? -NT - (drook) - (2)
                         yes it confirms the problem, screw someone powerful over and if they are aquitted watch yer ass - (boxley) - (1)
                             "The Problem" you are speaking of is clear: - (Ashton)
                     Move to strike as nonresponsive - (rcareaga) - (11)
                         which truth are you refering to? - (boxley) - (10)
                             Where did you copy that from? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                 townhall.com Link provided. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                     no, the source of the quote was vindeman -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                                         Nice try. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                             sigh, page 256 is npr a RWN as well now? - (boxley) - (3)
                                                 Jesus wept box - (crazy) - (2)
                                                     “You are in troll mode” - (rcareaga)
                                                     Maybe not, but if he so desperately wants to be seen as such, why shouldn't he be despised as such? -NT - (CRConrad)
                                         I was talking about the CHARACTERIZATION OF Vindemans quote, not the quote itself. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                             I would have spelled it damming, but you knew that -NT - (boxley)
         If you watched the Dem debate in NH tonight, Vindman got a standing ovation on Biden's request. -NT - (a6l6e6x)

I wonder how long before this screw job ends up as my boss?
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