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New I don't fail to see the dilemma here.
But I do not believe it is impossible to develop an objective standard test that confirms that a member of society is sufficiently informed to be entrusted with a vote. I recognize that such a system would not be a purely democratic system but I am happy to debate the relative merits of "more democracy" with anyone.

Recently I was again in my cups at the local pub and a RW zealot with whom I am familiar sat down beside me. Despite having an MSEE, he is a strong Trump supporter. So, mere education is not a solution. A lot of what he believes about the world is simply wrong and in my estimation has a great deal to do with the fact that he has never been abroad, nor traveled much outside of his home state. I've always found it stunning that so many Americans who have spent their entire lives within the four or five counties surrounding the county of their birth have established immutable opinions on the rest of the world. Whatever voting right test was designed in my Utopian Socialist Democratic States of America of the future, it would surely be a requirement that the candidate voter possessed a passport which had been stamped by no less than two different nations outside the Western Hemisphere in the previous two years.

For all of my adult life it has always grated upon my soul to hear someone say, "Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion." I, unfailingly, become unhinged when hearing that and demand, "No! Everyone is entitled to their own well reasoned opinion and some are better reasoned than others." I'll no doubt repeat myself here, but the fundamental problem in the US is that most of its inhabitants cannot follow a modus ponens argument.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Your passport test is a non-starter
There are places in the US where by the time you leave the state you could have crossed 3 national borders in other parts of the world.
--

Drew
New Only 3?
Think "Northern Europe" and then "Texas"
New Wanted a number that was definitely true without having to do research
--

Drew
New Rear elephant.
It's not distance travelled that matters, it is difference in culture that matters.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Right, and from the middle of nowhere that's a flight away
--

Drew
New So? I am two weeks from anywhere and still manage to have my passport stamped every couple of years.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Yeah. This.
I still remember the surprised reaction from one friend many many years ago when my first overseas trip was to Japan. It boiled down to "But it's so different*!" "That was kinda the point".

Visiting the US doesn't have quite the same effect. There is so much that *is* the same or only a little different than back home.

Wade.

* yeah, I know; different-ish.
New Yeah, and . . .
. . linguists say the two varieties of English that are closest to each other are American English and Australian English.

I explain this as resulting from both countries being founded by the same criminal element - just the Americans got out before the police came and the Australians after the police came.
New Damn! That's good ..best new simile in yearz.
New So you're saying the original Aussie settlers were on average a little dumber than the Yank ones...?
New I think it's more "implying"
--

Drew
New free travel provided for aussies
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Circumstances vary . . .
. . so that would have to be judged on a case by case basis.
     Further blogwhoring: what next? - (rcareaga) - (21)
         Only one nit. - (mmoffitt) - (15)
             Who is to say, though? - (rcareaga) - (14)
                 I don't fail to see the dilemma here. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                     Your passport test is a non-starter - (drook) - (12)
                         Only 3? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Wanted a number that was definitely true without having to do research -NT - (drook)
                         Rear elephant. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                             Right, and from the middle of nowhere that's a flight away -NT - (drook) - (1)
                                 So? I am two weeks from anywhere and still manage to have my passport stamped every couple of years. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                             Yeah. This. - (static) - (6)
                                 Yeah, and . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                     Damn! That's good ..best new simile in yearz. -NT - (Ashton)
                                     So you're saying the original Aussie settlers were on average a little dumber than the Yank ones...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                         I think it's more "implying" -NT - (drook)
                                         free travel provided for aussies -NT - (boxley)
                                         Circumstances vary . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         I think the republican party is overdue for an implosion - (boxley) - (3)
             Dupe - (dmcarls)
             Re: I think the republican party is overdue for an implosion - (dmcarls) - (1)
                 ..and for an encore, - (Ashton)
         'Interregnum' ... ... writ Large, indeed. - (Ashton)

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