What about Turkey?
I read recently that there is an older treaty that means if Russia tries to occupy Crimea, it actually reverts to Turkey. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia article about said treaty is not an easy read.
http://en.wikipedia....of_Küçük_Kaynarca Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
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You're right!
Crimea and the Tatar inhabitants were a protectorate of the Ottoman empire.
Alex
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well that is why the Crimean war started inittially
russians trying to protect slavs and orthodox christians was it not?
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Russia was in an expansioinst mode.
The Tatars hadn't quite figured out that agriculture thing made regular marauding raids deep into Ukraine and even Polish territories. They brought the grain, goods, young women and some boys back to Crimea. They exported slaves to Turkey. The Cossacks were established on the Dnieper River near the current city of Zaporizhia (and various other spellings) to keep them at bay.
Kathrine II tried to push back the Ottoman empire all around the Black Sea, out of the Balkans, and even hoped to return Constantinople to Christian control. That didn't quite happen, but Crimea was invaded and captured in 1768. Alex
ÂThere is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. -- Isaac Asimov |
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they needed a warm water port and cuba was too far back then
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But hey, with global warming . . .
. . they can have as many ports as they want - they don't even need Sevastopol.
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When the heck isn't it...
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when it is being invaded by the europeans or the turks
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Interesting - The Ruble is weaker now then during the GrRec.
- (Another Scott)
- (21)
- March 2, 2014, 11:23:31 PM EST
dunno, with putin asserting (rightfully) control over the
- (boxley)
- (20)
- March 3, 2014, 01:20:18 AM EST
No, I think they'll run away.
- (Another Scott)
- (3)
- March 3, 2014, 09:02:14 AM EST
No, that was airlines.
-NT
- (Andrew Grygus)
- (2)
- March 3, 2014, 09:49:14 AM EST
That too. :-)
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- March 3, 2014, 10:12:08 AM EST
"Was" is the operative word there.
- (a6l6e6x)
- March 3, 2014, 10:15:17 AM EST
Rightfully?
- (pwhysall)
- (2)
- March 3, 2014, 09:12:16 AM EST
So the charge of the lightbrigade was against the tartars?
- (boxley)
- (1)
- March 3, 2014, 10:56:45 AM EST
Sevastopol != Crimea
- (pwhysall)
- March 3, 2014, 01:35:23 PM EST
Rightfully my ass!
- (a6l6e6x)
- (12)
- March 3, 2014, 10:12:06 AM EST
So it was not part of the ukraine at the time of your birth
- (boxley)
- (11)
- March 3, 2014, 11:09:56 AM EST
One hell of a cost in lives . . .
- (Andrew Grygus)
- March 3, 2014, 11:24:22 AM EST
Check your Wikipedia.
- (a6l6e6x)
- (9)
- March 3, 2014, 12:07:39 PM EST
I thought they already did?
-NT
- (boxley)
- March 3, 2014, 08:42:28 PM EST
What about Turkey?
- (static)
- (7)
- March 4, 2014, 05:01:50 AM EST
You're right!
- (a6l6e6x)
- (6)
- March 4, 2014, 09:10:33 AM EST
well that is why the Crimean war started inittially
- (boxley)
- (5)
- March 4, 2014, 10:23:28 AM EST
Russia was in an expansioinst mode.
- (a6l6e6x)
- (4)
- March 4, 2014, 12:43:31 PM EST
they needed a warm water port and cuba was too far back then
-NT
- (boxley)
- (1)
- March 4, 2014, 07:43:43 PM EST
But hey, with global warming . . .
- (Andrew Grygus)
- March 4, 2014, 08:14:12 PM EST
When the heck isn't it...
-NT
- (CRConrad)
- (1)
- Dec. 12, 2014, 08:05:04 AM EST
when it is being invaded by the europeans or the turks
-NT
- (boxley)
- Dec. 12, 2014, 12:54:06 PM EST
