*shrug*

Post #35,168 by admin 4/11/02 4:58:09 PM Reply	shrug Only time I get in a pissing match is when someone who hasn't bothered to learn mine tells me how shitty it is. ;-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #35,206 by broomberg 4/11/02 8:35:11 PM Reply	You mean that overloaded piece o' Nah, it's a matter of baby chick syndrome. I still remember (no, I won't bother, it'll trigger off a storm of I remembers). I tried to learn EMACS about 2 years after vi, before gvim was created. I got the REAL book from the FSF, did the exercises, and tried living in it for a month. I still have the book. Didn't stick. I went to brief, and then vslick on windows. Then gvim was created, so I went back.
Post #35,213 by inthane-chan 4/11/02 9:22:46 PM Reply	You're all overlooking the REAL god of editors. edlin. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #35,226 by static 4/12/02 12:45:58 AM Reply	You. Soap. Mouth. Now. Dear oh dear... Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #35,228 by Meerkat 4/12/02 2:15:33 AM Reply	Let's get to the bottom of this. Changing patch cables on ENIAC :) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #35,229 by static 4/12/02 2:23:56 AM Reply	I can't believe you've done that. But I've edited machine code directly in memory. In hex. Using Debug. :-) Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #35,230 by Meerkat 4/12/02 2:30:22 AM Reply	That's because I haven't. But I did do a (tiny) bit of mucking about in Debug. It for some work thing, can't actually remember what. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #35,237 by imric 4/12/02 7:43:35 AM Reply	When I first learned to program, I used punched paper tape for backup, and a teletype for entry... We also used punched cards. My boss at the time would make programmers with attitude problems use the patch cables to reprogram the punched-card sorter as an attitude adjustment... Even the threat worked. grin At least, I was never selected for that singular 'honor'. Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #35,257 by wharris2 4/12/02 12:15:03 PM Reply	Re: That's because I haven't. I cracked Ultima 4 and Ultima 5's copy protection with debug. Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
Post #35,240 by jb4 4/12/02 9:12:09 AM Reply	I'll see you, and raise you 010 But I've edited machine code directly in memory. In hex. Using Debug. ;-) I've edited machine code directly in memory. In octal. Using the front panel switches. :-\ufffd jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #35,248 by hnick 4/12/02 11:27:27 AM Reply	Here you go... [link\|http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990508\|This fits here ] :)
Post #35,293 by broomberg 4/12/02 11:43:23 PM Reply	Mel has you all beat [link\|http://info.astrian.net/jargon/Hacker_Folklore/The_Story_of_Mel.html\|http://info.astrian..._of_Mel.html]
Post #35,286 by Ashton 4/12/02 6:11:10 PM Reply	Hey!...... Me too________but Alas.. I lacked the masochistic stick-toited-ness to bravely go forward into ---> all that led to the Wunnaful World of the Windoze API. {sob} Just thinking of what I have missed! by this cowardly otiose decision.. leaves me in a mood of :( Giggle.. Giggle.. Giggle.. Giggle.. Giggle.. Giggle.. Giggle.. Giggle.. G R I N
Post #35,299 by static 4/13/02 3:30:04 AM Reply	Interesting game. Besides, it will probably show a few people's ages... I've also used the old DOS Debug to genuinely debug a program. Well, a small assembly routine linked inside a QuickBASIC program. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #35,297 by cforde 4/13/02 3:23:02 AM Reply	Been there, got the scars. >But I've edited machine code directly in memory. In hex. Using Debug. :-) I've done that too. But it wasn't Debug, it was the VM equivilent PER. Edited real memory on a real production machine in mid-day. Crashed it hard too. That gave a couple of thousand people a little extra time for lunch. I forget the exact problem we had, but we were unable to log onto MAINT, the main administrator account (think root). To get around this we overwrote CP's password checking code to bypass the password check. This would allow the logon to happen, we'd put the code back the way it was and all would be well. Worked fine until it was time to put the code back. I had three other guys verify my typing before I pressed enter. Seems there was a digit wrong. sigh. Explaining what happened to the security guys was "interesting" too... Have fun, Carl Forde

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