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New Never say die.. say DAMN!
Seems to come down to increasingly intricate work, with a large Luck-factor, once the outboard electronics is (presumed) vetted. As nobody publishes the schematics for such proprietary (and ever-altering) boards: makes it hard to (see where to) measure the resistance of the coil driving the head positioner (not to mention: look for Opens in the/a head-coil(s) -- though that's irrelevant if the suckers cannot be moved in the first place.)

As to making a mini- clean-enough room via big plastic bag and a through-flow of some clean bottled gas: you'd hope to find that the head-positioner is connected by a mylar strap-with-traces: into a soft elastomer? receiving jack. And it has just come loose. Odds?

Anyway, what's to lose? I suppose I'd want to take a peek inside, once all imaginable outside tests have revealed nada. Gas bottle + regulator (on loan?) with carefully air-blasted-off surgeon gloves -- could get you a reasonable probability that any micro-contaminants would not destroy things in the time span to dump the data (?) Can't see such a venture needing hours and hours.. which is a +
('Clean'-rooms are, in the end: merely 'clean-enough'. That Questar telescope cleaning was probably the closest I've 'seen' to Perfection in that arena.)

And, at least from Inside: you could measure the resistance of that driver coil; perhaps see why you don't hear head action.. perhaps even see a broken *teensy lead-in wire? You Can run the drive with top off and see exactly what isn't happening -- saw this under Plexiglass at a show or two. Highly-unlikely your new/used controller board would have an identical failure to present one, eh?

* there is (somewhere!) silver-bearing conductive epoxies (or similar) which could repair such jeweler-level wire-sizes, though the Formvar(?) insulation would need a drop of the magic solvent for that: also Out There.) Without a micro-soldering station to-hand.. well, you Know.

(I have, through the years (with/without assistance) embarked on such improbable projects.. usually because The Machine was down and, you do what you Have To.)
Watched true Maestros, too -- for tips on not over-doing! These were not all fools' errands and it feels rilly Good to beat the odds.


Luck!

moi


PS - as to Doze not seeing it.. I would imagine that, sans actual head-positioning feedback to the firmware, there would be some equivalent to a 'POK'? POST [negative] etc. which would then fail to tell the outside world that it's ready for business. No? So a broken/detached wire likely would do just what you see. WAG, etc.
Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 28, 2009, 05:44:41 PM EST
New Should have looked around a little more...
Thanks for your thoughts on diagnosing it. I was almost certain that the remaining problem had to do with the board, not the motors, etc. I remember taking apart a 10 MB HD to see the damage inside, and figured if it came to that with this box then I'd have no hope.

I did some more searching using "Seagate 7200.8" and found forum.hddguru.com . It has lots of good information about fixing drives.

The contraption that got roasted on the original circuit board of drive is a "TVS" - Trans Voltage Suppressor. It's a diode that's designed to protect the rest of the electronics if bad things happen to the input voltage. It's apparently quite common for them to fail via a dead short (as seemed to happen in my case based on the PS issues I was having).

http://forum.hddguru...t9998.html#p70888

So I had an excuse to drag out my soldering iron. And guess what? Removing the roasted TVS fixes the drive! Woot! :-D

So, I'm out $50 for that replacement circuit board (which I'm under the impression should have worked), but I've apparently got all my old data back. But, while replacement TVS parts apparently are available, I think I'll play it safe and relegate this drive to the parts bin after I get all the data off it.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who has turned it off until he can get another drive ready to back it up. And who is much more careful about hooking up power connectors on open PCs now...)
New Woot!
The data is the important thing.

The "replacement board" is probably off a bad drive whose electronics failed.

Were there any jumpers to set? And if so, did you match them to original?
Alex
New :-) No jumpers. It's the standard SATA setup.
New Nice. Save.
Indeed, it appears that this TVS did exactly what it was supposed to do -- die First before all the other stuff Would! (Forgot you had er, REVERSED POLARITY as in, bad-Scott.) I've learned to look always at that 'little-tent' in the Molexes. Too lazy to troubleshoot the consequences.

Concur re ever trusting the thing again.. with $/TB decreasing as we speak, it isn't even worth My time to futz with the stuff I was suggesting, except: data recovery doesn't care about practicality.
(Maybe the dead-short failure-mode is also intentional? All switchers would shut-down for that - right?)

Info == power! You got the exact component without a tedious tracing sans schematic.
(But I think it would have been more Fun.. had it been a fixable 'Open' inside!)

Could the Why of the new board's failure to communicate -- be a firmware thing? Go to all that trouble and find ... you have to match some firmware to a specific run of drives, etc. == bummer.

Congrats on Success!


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