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Post #302,667 by beepster 1/20/09 9:34:28 AM Reply	Not weird. Smart Get in cheap...retool and introduce your product in the US as "made in the us" which was one of Fiat's biggest problems last time it tried to get into the US market about 30 years ago. And of the big 3, Chrysler might just be the easiest one to manage through crisis, since they're so closely removed from their last one. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #302,671 by Another Scott 1/20/09 9:59:11 AM Reply	Wow. FIAT's been the weakest of the western car companies for so long, I'm surprised that you're so enthusiastic about the proposed deal. It's their quality, and reputation for poor quality, that killed them in the US - not that they were foreign. Let's hope it works out for the sake of Chrysler's workers, but I'm not optimistic. There's a world-wide glut in auto manufacturing and weaker players are going to lose out during this downturn. Cheers, Scott.
Post #302,682 by beepster 1/20/09 10:38:02 AM Reply	Not so sure about that. Won COTY for europe last year, have long since dealt with q issues, own 2 high profile sports car brands in Ferrari and Maserati. My remembrance of their US downfall was more related to them losing share to the Japanese in their small cars with quality at that time that was roughly equal (Datsun and Toyota weren't exactly stellar builders yet..they got better) and the fact that oil got cheap again in late 70s dried up the small car market. Fond remembrances of my fathers "oldsmobile"... http://www.design-ca...00px-Fiat_500.jpg couldn't kill it. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #302,748 by scoenye 1/20/09 9:02:46 PM Reply	Ferrari is running the show these days A couple of years ago, Fiat was in worse shape than Chrysler. It was essentially still run by the Agnelli family. That unravelled for various reasons and the company was half a step away from going broke. Ferrari was the only part that was working properly and their CEO took over management of the whole company.
Post #302,777 by folkert 1/21/09 9:15:25 AM Reply	Which was a stroke of genius... To have someone who knows how to build a brand and keep a brnad running smoothly and run a company that way... whodathunkit.

Weird Fiat - Chrysler deal - (jay) - (27) - Jan. 20, 2009, 01:14:13 PM EST

Not weird. Smart - (beepster) - (4) - Jan. 20, 2009, 09:34:28 AM EST

Wow. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Jan. 20, 2009, 09:59:11 AM EST

Not so sure about that. - (beepster) - (2) - Jan. 20, 2009, 10:38:02 AM EST

Ferrari is running the show these days - (scoenye) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2009, 09:02:46 PM EST

Which was a stroke of genius... - (folkert) - Jan. 21, 2009, 09:15:25 AM EST

The only Fiat owner I knew used to say that the only... - (a6l6e6x) - (21) - Jan. 20, 2009, 10:09:09 AM EST

used to own a alfa (cheap sedan) threw fiat parts - (boxley) - Jan. 20, 2009, 10:29:24 AM EST

Re: The only Fiat owner I knew used to say that the only... - (beepster) - Jan. 20, 2009, 10:41:07 AM EST

These days, in Europe... - (pwhysall) - (18) - Jan. 20, 2009, 12:02:26 PM EST

Also... - (pwhysall) - (13) - Jan. 20, 2009, 12:05:58 PM EST

I'd agree there... barring one. - (folkert) - Jan. 20, 2009, 12:13:40 PM EST

beg to differ - (boxley) - (11) - Jan. 20, 2009, 01:17:33 PM EST

Those are not able to be compared. -NT - (folkert) - Jan. 20, 2009, 02:28:22 PM EST

Ooh, doesn't look like a Matchbox car any more - (drook) - Jan. 20, 2009, 03:03:14 PM EST

Your eyes are broken. -NT - (pwhysall) - (8) - Jan. 20, 2009, 03:37:23 PM EST

no, one looks like a cheap arsed version. - (boxley) - (7) - Jan. 20, 2009, 03:56:56 PM EST

The viper is many things. - (pwhysall) - (6) - Jan. 20, 2009, 04:12:52 PM EST

depends on the viewer doesnt it? - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 20, 2009, 04:20:33 PM EST

Well, one of 'em is a bit fragile looking . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Jan. 20, 2009, 04:44:31 PM EST

I'd like to be in between them, too -NT - (drook) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2009, 05:02:40 PM EST

either or all 4? -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 20, 2009, 06:01:02 PM EST

naw, this is brutish, sfw - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2009, 09:48:38 PM EST

That's Mrs. Conan . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 22, 2009, 10:58:50 PM EST

Good to hear. I hope they bring the 500 here. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2009, 12:49:22 PM EST

The 500 Abarth looks like a hoot to drive. -NT - (pwhysall) - Jan. 20, 2009, 01:01:28 PM EST

You mean they've finally dumped Magneti Marelli? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2009, 12:57:19 PM EST

Guess I'll have to dredge up sometime, my little visit - (Ashton) - Jan. 20, 2009, 06:45:14 PM EST

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