Get inside their world view

Post #25,983 by JayMehaffey 1/27/02 9:06:11 PM Reply	Get inside their world view The complaints about promoting magic seem very strange on the surface but if you get inside their worldview it suddenly makes a fair degree of sense. People that object that these sorts of books promote magic are almost always extremly conservative christians. These are the sort of people that believe that God takes a direct hand in manipulating this world, that prayers can cause God to take action, and so on. The obvious counter point to that is that they also believe that you can invoke the other power also. And since, in their world view, there are only two powers, if your not invoking the first you must be invoking the second. They think books like this are dangerous for exactly the same reason we would think a book showing kids being raised in a Nazi boarding in a positive way would be a bad thing. The faults of this world view are many, but from their world view it is certainly self consistant and resonable. Jay
Post #26,012 by CRConrad 1/28/02 2:22:40 AM Reply	But even given that, there's no justification... Jay points out: The obvious counter point to that is that they also believe that you can invoke the other power also. And since, in their world view, there are only two powers, if your not invoking the first you must be invoking the second. Naah. Where in the books does it say that it is "the other power" they're calling on? What's to say it isn't "God" that makes their magic work??? Fuck, they claim to believe he actually did it for Moses and people like him -- burning bushes and the like -- so why shouldn't that be what these fairy tales are portraying? Naah, sorry, Jay... But their world view is certainly NOT "self-consistent and resonable"; on the contrary, it IS just stupid narrow-minded bigotry. That's inherent in the concept of religion, I think; it's just that it only comes to the fore this starkly when you overdo it. Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #26,019 by wharris2 1/28/02 3:43:47 AM Reply	Rah Rah CR! Stupid narrow-minded bigotry isn't quite descriptive enough, but it'll do. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #26,022 by ben_tilly 1/28/02 7:37:51 AM Reply	Sorry, they are being consistent The Bible warns against false prophets, etc. And, obviously, anyone who who has a world view they don't share can't be prophesying Truth, so they cannot be representatives of God. So in their world there is only one thing to call it. Call it narrow-minded, arrogant, bigoted, etc, etc, etc as much as you want and I will agree. But it is at least a consistent narrow-minded bigoted arrogance. Cheers, Ben
Post #26,222 by Ashton 1/28/02 11:54:21 PM 1/28/02 11:54:48 PM Reply	Either/or, black/white: one could call it er, 'digital' :-\ufffd Edited by Missing User 70 Jan. 28, 2002, 11:54:48 PM EST Expand All History

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