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New I wish.
It came back with a vengeance. I've spent the past 24 hours sleeping on the bathroom floor.

I'm too exhausted to argue anymore. You wont hear another word from me on this topic. You win.
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New Hang in there, L. Drink ginger ale if you can - often helps.
New Have been.
It's the only thing that stays down. :-(
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New But, but, but . . .
. . you know I didn't really want to win, but with BioNerd out of action what can I do now? Who will save me?

I hope for your speedy recovery. I'll light another candle for you (the last one burned out just about the time of your relapse - I thought you'd be over this by now).
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New You may have won the battle
but the war's not over. I'm not giving up on you or your misguided, lovelorn soul.
Keep the candles burning, maybe do a little dance, too.
I'll do the same for you.
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New No no no. It's Ashton who does the dance. cha cha cha.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New Ya, but . . .
. . I got me shaman drum here and I'll play it a tune for the Bio - but I ain't gett'n down me Siberian shaman outfit with the wrought iron bones an do a dance unless she says it's real serious (that sucker's heavy an' a bit warm in a SoCal winter). Last thing I want though, is ta drum 'er into the land of the dead - so hey Bio - be well!
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New No need for the suit
Just light up a wicker man in the yard and have at it.

And when I'm feeling better I'll dance for your soul with my scarves in the moonlight. The dance is probably best done naked, but it's way too cold for that. I think it will still be effective with a parka and boots. We shall see.
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New Well, I got out the drum and did a few . . .
. . patterns for you. Unfortunately, the only image of you I had fresh in mind was your Halloween picture, so if you get an excomunication letter from the Pope, that's probably how it came about.

Oh well, at least in my mind you were smiling.

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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Dec. 23, 2005, 12:57:35 PM EST
New I am so *pretty*
Get rid of that picture, would ya?
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New Done - but . . .
. . since you've alread seen it it won't be deleted from your browser cache for awhile.
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New yabut
the cold would ensure the fast rendition.... :-)

You're beginning to sound like yourself again. Welcome back to the land of the healthy.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New Those are her words, but what are her actions?
New That will be revealed in the fullness of time . . .
. . but when a woman's out to reform a man you can bet it doesn't include conceding many battles.
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New oh ye of little faith...
If ya'll think acting like jerks is the way to go, I'll keep my mouth shut on the topic. There are lots of other ways to reform Andrew, anyway.
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New "Jerks get all the girls"
The battle-cry of the single man, I wot.


Peter
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New Geez, bio
I don't see Andrew doing that anyway. _I_ think he'd prefer to find a girl he doesn't have to be a jerk to.

I think MOST single 'nice guys' have to get over the nice-guy/jerk thing. I don't think either one is related to attracting a woman (except obliquely, as I said before). It's taken a lot of 'counselling' from my female friends for me to reach that conclusion.

I do have more than a few female friends, and I've had to console them SO many times about the jerks they were dating... (three of them have found really nice guys woth their time now, btw - all meeting their guys in really unusual circumstance, only one of them not actively looking) It's hard not to see jerks as having an advantage - I used to be very bitter about the subject myself. So much so I pretty much gave up on that part of my life for a long time. They are very frank with me now; they are actively trying to help me rather commiserating. I really am hoping to figure out what's what - so far it seems a 'mating display' of wealth and/or health (and/or) fitness is primary.

Next I've come to the conclusion that it's the ability to engage the lady personally. That can be intellectually, socially, or physically (dancing, etc.) - and the engagement is what counts, not necessarily whether the engagement is good or bad (I've had tales or arguments, spills, and lousy dancers - though the good anecdotes outnumber the bad). The more of these things, the better. Looks outside of health/fitness don't seem to matter that much... (I'm personally working on health/fitness, myself. That's something that benefits me anyway).

Being a nice guy doesn't seem to enter the situation. It gets you friends (sometimes very good friends), though, if the 'mating display' is rejected. That isn't a bad thing - but it can feed bitterness.

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Ziiiiip
That's the sound of me keeping my mouth shut.
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New *shrug*

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New I'm sorry to hear that, hope you recover fast
Being sick on Christmas, sucks.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Hey L, Sorry to hear you are battling the killer bug again.
don't forget crackers and my personal favorite, strained bananas. Yes, as in baby food. Works like a charm. Hope that helps. It's too cold for popsicles, but they work pretty good too.

Hugs,
Amy

"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
New God, Amy, just put the nail in my coffin..
Strained bananas? Just looking at that would... ohhhh....
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New Drink Guinness.


Peter
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New bloooorrrggg
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New Funny. That's what *I* say after about 8 pints or so.


Peter
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New BRILLIANT!
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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New sorry :-(
Didn't realize it was that bad. Guess you'll have to stick to Gatorade or (God Forbid) Pedialyte (although I've heard they've made it taste better)

I hope you are better soon. It's good to see you posting again at least.

Hugs,
Amy

"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
New remember cognac for chest whiskey for head
colds and rum for general health and well being vitamins so to speak.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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New Whatever happened to chicken soup? :)
Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
New You need to know which soul....
Chicken soup for the [link|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1558744630/qid=1135354688/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2389363-3240720?n=507846&s=books&v=glance|teenage soul]

Chicken soup for the [link|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0757303137/qid=1135354706/sr=8-3/ref=pd_bbs_3/104-2389363-3240720?n=507846&s=books&v=glance|girl's soul]

Chicken soup for the [link|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0757303285/qid=1135354787/sr=8-5/ref=pd_bbs_5/104-2389363-3240720?n=507846&s=books&v=glance|Grandma's soul]

Chicken soup for [link|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0757302483/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-2389363-3240720?%5Fencoding=UTF8|Every Mom's soul]

and on and on.

Too many varieties of chicken soup to choose from....
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New Well, I figure 'Chicken Soup for the Chicken's Soul' . . .
. . is really the way to go.
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New what do you mean "too cold for popsicles"?
Why we even keep the DQs open year round. It does seem a little strange walking up to the DQ window and ordering a Blizzard when it's -20F.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New Only one suggestion -
Do Not make / help make any. Snow(wo)men. Angels. No matter What. Y'hear?

Stay warm.. there may be some good come of, umm not being expected to do ___ (all that stuff? y'know? ;-)


Cheers,
moi

New Its not the snow angels I'm worried about
It's 2 days before Christmas and I dont have a thing ready. I woke up this morning feeling a wee bit better. Am drinking tea and catching up on some work now before the kids get up.
Guess we'll make due with what I can throw together. As long as there are cookies out for Santa tomorrow night and presents under the tree the next morning, my kids will be happy.
Fa la la, ya'll.
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New Like I told my wife yesterday
That's the great thing about Christmas and pregnancy. No matter how not-ready you think you are, it's going to show up when it wants to anyway.
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New Is there a reason?
That you're talking with your wife about the merits of pregnancy?

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Just that we've had this discussion before
She was saying last night that she was totally unprepared for Chrfistmas. I said, "Remember when you were pregnant the first time? And you said you weren't ready for it? Well this is just like that. It doesn't matter if you're ready, it's going to happen in its own time anyway."

Some people act like if they don't get all the cookies baked and all the gifts bought and wrapped and the tree cut down and the lights put up and and and and and ... that Christmas will decide to not come in a fit of pique.
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New Ah. I thought it might have been something else.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Had same thoughts, especially since my sdaughter's news..
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
     New car work good. - (Andrew Grygus) - (131)
         :-) Excellent. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Smithers -NT - (broomberg)
         Schwing. -NT - (admin)
         job: check, car: check, cooks: check, .... -NT - (cforde) - (3)
             The next stage is when she checks out how big his - (jake123) - (1)
                 I wonder if she's a Druish Princess named Vespa? -NT - (n3jja)
             Yeah, it's like going for a job . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         good doins, -NT - (boxley)
         Good luck -NT - (ben_tilly)
         It is well that I am married\ufffd - (rcareaga) - (1)
             Ahhh, one of the !GOOD years. - (folkert)
         Also, don't forget that women find a man with an... - (a6l6e6x)
         Weeee! - (imqwerky) - (118)
             Well, it just ain't to be. - (Andrew Grygus) - (117)
                 Wining them is easy.Just keep pouring until they say stop... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                     OK, so it looked wrong both ways and I was tired. -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                 But, on the other hand . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (108)
                     keep a spatula on your dashboard - (boxley) - (2)
                         God, how I love a good pervert ;-) -NT - (imqwerky) - (1)
                             Re: God, how I love a good pervert ;-) (new thread) - (lincoln)
                     Book recommendation - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                         Hmmmmmm . . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                         From a review: - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                             Well, my copy hasn't arrived yet . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     I found it seems to be whether they think you're after them. - (static) - (100)
                         Yeah, that's part of the 'treat 'em like dirt' thing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (99)
                             its not your idealizm you want squeezed :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Yeah, but according to current literature . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                             FWIW, all women aren't like that. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                 Yeah, I'm work'n on that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
                                     Start with insulting them - (broomberg) - (9)
                                         That appears to be the essential point. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                         I dunno... - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                             Hey! You're being reasonable when . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                                                 Kinda like taking any job when unemployed - (broomberg)
                                                 are you narrowing choices by color weight accents? - (boxley) - (4)
                                                     Well, here's my preferences . . you tell me. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                                         well you really are not representative of "white" culture - (boxley)
                                                         Chinese probably not good match - (tonytib) - (1)
                                                             no they prefer their men pw'ed - (boxley)
                             exact opposite - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
                                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Crap, crap, and more crap - (bionerd) - (81)
                                 We'll be anxiously awaiting :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                 Lemme get my flack jacket . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (79)
                                     I was recently talking - (imric) - (8)
                                         When you make those millions - (bepatient) - (3)
                                             we need a design for the t-shirt - (boxley)
                                             Oh - I will. - (imric) - (1)
                                                 Don't bother ... I don't need it any more -NT - (drewk)
                                         Exactly the situation. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                             I think it is a matter of numbers and no fear of rejection - (broomberg) - (2)
                                                 Bill Hicks said/sang it best - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                     paragraph 2 smackgobs me - (boxley)
                                     Andrew, my darling... - (bionerd) - (69)
                                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
                                         Aww come-on . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (12)
                                             Did they find the man they wanted... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                 I deal with the women too . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                             All of it. Ignore all of it. - (bionerd) - (9)
                                                 *grin* - (imric)
                                                 Re: All of it. Ignore all of it. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                 Oh bull - (broomberg)
                                                 Oh, I don't want to actually . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                                     My ex-fiance says - (imric) - (4)
                                                         And there, of course, lies a problem. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                         fiance, eh? - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                             Yeah, yeah - so I dropped the extra e. - (imric) - (1)
                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4)
                                         Being a jerk certainly doesn't seem to be a turn-off - (imric) - (44)
                                             It is also necessary . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (41)
                                                 Bull. -NT - (bionerd) - (40)
                                                     Well, I'm glad to see you're feeling better. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (39)
                                                         I wish. - (bionerd) - (38)
                                                             Hang in there, L. Drink ginger ale if you can - often helps. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                 Have been. - (bionerd)
                                                             But, but, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (15)
                                                                 You may have won the battle - (bionerd) - (14)
                                                                     No no no. It's Ashton who does the dance. cha cha cha. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (6)
                                                                         Ya, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                                                             No need for the suit - (bionerd) - (4)
                                                                                 Well, I got out the drum and did a few . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                                                                     I am so *pretty* - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                                                         Done - but . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                                 yabut - (jbrabeck)
                                                                     Those are her words, but what are her actions? -NT - (tonytib) - (6)
                                                                         That will be revealed in the fullness of time . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                         oh ye of little faith... - (bionerd) - (4)
                                                                             "Jerks get all the girls" - (pwhysall)
                                                                             Geez, bio - (imric) - (2)
                                                                                 Ziiiiip - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                                                     *shrug* -NT - (imric)
                                                             I'm sorry to hear that, hope you recover fast - (ben_tilly)
                                                             Hey L, Sorry to hear you are battling the killer bug again. - (imqwerky) - (11)
                                                                 God, Amy, just put the nail in my coffin.. - (bionerd) - (6)
                                                                     Drink Guinness. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                                         bloooorrrggg -NT - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                                             Funny. That's what *I* say after about 8 pints or so. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                                         BRILLIANT! -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                     sorry :-( - (imqwerky) - (1)
                                                                         remember cognac for chest whiskey for head - (boxley)
                                                                 Whatever happened to chicken soup? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                                                     You need to know which soul.... - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                                         Well, I figure 'Chicken Soup for the Chicken's Soul' . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                 what do you mean "too cold for popsicles"? - (jbrabeck)
                                                             Only one suggestion - - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                                 Its not the snow angels I'm worried about - (bionerd) - (5)
                                                                     Like I told my wife yesterday - (drewk) - (4)
                                                                         Is there a reason? - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                                             Just that we've had this discussion before - (drewk) - (2)
                                                                                 Ah. I thought it might have been something else. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                                     Had same thoughts, especially since my sdaughter's news.. -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                             Who are you going to snag by being a jerk? - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                 I didn't say that. - (imric)
                                         Being the right kind of jerk apparently works on you - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                             Well, someone's clearly in the holiday spirit - (drewk) - (3)
                                                 Thank you. :-D -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 is that before or after jerking the chain? -NT - (boxley)
                                                 Right after... - (ben_tilly)
                                         Of course, you did marry a jerk - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                             Doesn't matter - (broomberg)
                                             Unavoidable - the \ufffdber-Jerks are in Stealth mode the longest - (Ashton)
                                             Of course, if you had been more persistant - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                 +3: Innovation!___;^> -NT - (Ashton)
                             Being too nice gets no respect. - (tonytib)
                 Well, I kept communications lines open . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                     Just hang out with me for a couple of weeks. - (broomberg)
                     ask her if she has any loose friends you can nail -NT - (boxley)
                     Hmmm . . . this book may not be so useful after all. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         And you thought it would be??? - (bionerd) - (1)
                             I'm sure the techniques in it are effective . . . - (Andrew Grygus)

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