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Post #238,514
by Andrew Grygus
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12/18/05 10:59:36 PM
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New Well, I kept communications lines open . . .
. . with "N" (the nurse). Now she's repeated that she respects me and likes my attitude, so can we be friends?

Another obvious case of "nice guys never get the girl" syndrome here, but I haven't anything to lose at this point so I told her "sure, I don't have a problem with that". That should completely finish off any lingering respect she may have harbored for my manliness.

But, hell, she can join the collection of women who are my "friends", and if it ever comes to that, can join the elite group who has slept in my living room while fighting with their husbands. Nothing new here.

Damn, when's that book going to get here so I can learn to be abusive to women and win thier love instead of their respect?

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Post #238,523
by broomberg
12/19/05 6:18:29 AM
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New Just hang out with me for a couple of weeks.
You'll get a hell of an education according to my wife.
Post #238,529
by boxley
12/19/05 9:34:12 AM
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New ask her if she has any loose friends you can nail
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

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Post #238,592
by Andrew Grygus
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12/19/05 11:48:53 PM
12/19/05 11:58:24 PM
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New Hmmm . . . this book may not be so useful after all.
It's way too structured.

First section presents "the nine different types of seducer" and tells me I must fit into one of the descriptions. I am uncomfortable with all of them.

Then it has "the 18 different types of victim", none of which describes any person I'm looking to seduce.

The book is oriented to the person who wishes to devote his or her life to seduction and selects victims primarily for their vulnerability. That is not my objective.

My objective is to get the job done and be done with it and I'm not particularly seeking exploitable vulnerability in a permanent partner.

Well, on to the "Process" section to see if anything useful can be learned from from that part.
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Post #238,613
by bionerd
12/20/05 9:39:28 AM
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New And you thought it would be???
Honestly.
Follow your MOUSE
Post #238,620
by Andrew Grygus
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12/20/05 10:56:40 AM
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New I'm sure the techniques in it are effective . . .
. . if you're an 18th century nobleman with tons of leisure time and plenty of social connections. Applying them today would be like applying the military techniques of the Napoleonic wars in the jungles of Viet Nam. In fact the authors kind of dwell on the Napoleonic period.
  • If I had the leisure time and selection of victims this book says are necessary, I certainly would have no use for this silly book.
  • It dwells continuously on selecting the victims by their being victims - not what I'm looking for in a woman.
  • It's core presumption is that you will seduce and then abandon the seduced for the next victim - so not my objective.
  • The book presumes you're interested in becoming a career seducer and willing to "do it by the numbers" rather than by native talent.
And to answer your question, no, I didn't (see rather tongue in cheek comments elsewhere in thread - such as shelving it with the MBA's Official Handbook).

All in all, this book is a harmless fantasy like a historical romance - pure escapism. It could only be of practical application to a few "intellectuals of leisure" and social parasites.

On the other hand, a book on guerilla tactics in modern settings could be helpful, so I'll look for one of those.
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     New car work good. - (Andrew Grygus) - (131) - Dec. 10, 2005, 09:48:35 PM EST
         :-) Excellent. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 10, 2005, 10:09:19 PM EST
             Smithers -NT - (broomberg) - Dec. 10, 2005, 11:02:15 PM EST
         Schwing. -NT - (admin) - Dec. 10, 2005, 11:06:29 PM EST
         job: check, car: check, cooks: check, .... -NT - (cforde) - (3) - Dec. 11, 2005, 03:43:00 AM EST
             The next stage is when she checks out how big his - (jake123) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2005, 08:09:41 AM EST
                 I wonder if she's a Druish Princess named Vespa? -NT - (n3jja) - Dec. 11, 2005, 01:02:39 PM EST
             Yeah, it's like going for a job . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 11, 2005, 01:12:24 PM EST
         good doins, -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 11, 2005, 10:18:02 AM EST
         Good luck -NT - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 11, 2005, 12:54:51 PM EST
         It is well that I am married\ufffd - (rcareaga) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2005, 03:17:08 PM EST
             Ahhh, one of the !GOOD years. - (folkert) - Dec. 12, 2005, 10:57:42 AM EST
         Also, don't forget that women find a man with an... - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 11, 2005, 05:43:25 PM EST
         Weeee! - (imqwerky) - (118) - Dec. 11, 2005, 09:22:40 PM EST
             Well, it just ain't to be. - (Andrew Grygus) - (117) - Dec. 12, 2005, 05:30:51 AM EST
                 Wining them is easy.Just keep pouring until they say stop... - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2005, 02:48:34 AM EST
                     OK, so it looked wrong both ways and I was tired. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 12, 2005, 05:29:04 AM EST
                 But, on the other hand . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (108) - Dec. 13, 2005, 12:32:11 AM EST
                     keep a spatula on your dashboard - (boxley) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2005, 08:33:28 AM EST
                         God, how I love a good pervert ;-) -NT - (imqwerky) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2005, 06:38:11 PM EST
                             Re: God, how I love a good pervert ;-) (new thread) - (lincoln) - Dec. 14, 2005, 11:00:15 PM EST
                     Book recommendation - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2005, 01:22:50 PM EST
                         Hmmmmmm . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 13, 2005, 03:02:33 PM EST
                         From a review: - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2005, 12:17:47 PM EST
                             Well, my copy hasn't arrived yet . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 18, 2005, 02:59:45 PM EST
                     I found it seems to be whether they think you're after them. - (static) - (100) - Dec. 15, 2005, 06:13:50 PM EST
                         Yeah, that's part of the 'treat 'em like dirt' thing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (99) - Dec. 15, 2005, 08:46:10 PM EST
                             its not your idealizm you want squeezed :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2005, 10:20:19 PM EST
                                 Yeah, but according to current literature . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 15, 2005, 10:39:35 PM EST
                             FWIW, all women aren't like that. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:22:19 PM EST
                                 Yeah, I'm work'n on that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:32:02 PM EST
                                     Start with insulting them - (broomberg) - (9) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:34:33 PM EST
                                         That appears to be the essential point. - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:47:44 PM EST
                                         I dunno... - (Another Scott) - (7) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:51:54 PM EST
                                             Hey! You're being reasonable when . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:21:42 AM EST
                                                 Kinda like taking any job when unemployed - (broomberg) - Dec. 16, 2005, 06:44:42 AM EST
                                                 are you narrowing choices by color weight accents? - (boxley) - (4) - Dec. 16, 2005, 10:04:32 AM EST
                                                     Well, here's my preferences . . you tell me. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 10:38:34 AM EST
                                                         well you really are not representative of "white" culture - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:42:45 AM EST
                                                         Chinese probably not good match - (tonytib) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:57:00 PM EST
                                                             no they prefer their men pw'ed - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2005, 06:25:59 PM EST
                             exact opposite - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 03:35:35 AM EST
                                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 16, 2005, 07:45:05 AM EST
                             Crap, crap, and more crap - (bionerd) - (81) - Dec. 16, 2005, 10:56:19 AM EST
                                 We'll be anxiously awaiting :-) -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:43:16 AM EST
                                 Lemme get my flack jacket . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (79) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:07:00 PM EST
                                     I was recently talking - (imric) - (8) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:41:23 PM EST
                                         When you make those millions - (bepatient) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:53:00 PM EST
                                             we need a design for the t-shirt - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:58:06 PM EST
                                             Oh - I will. - (imric) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:59:31 PM EST
                                                 Don't bother ... I don't need it any more -NT - (drewk) - Dec. 16, 2005, 01:50:45 PM EST
                                         Exactly the situation. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 02:00:49 PM EST
                                             I think it is a matter of numbers and no fear of rejection - (broomberg) - (2) - Dec. 16, 2005, 04:32:00 PM EST
                                                 Bill Hicks said/sang it best - (Silverlock) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 09:02:55 PM EST
                                                     paragraph 2 smackgobs me - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 09:13:49 PM EST
                                     Andrew, my darling... - (bionerd) - (69) - Dec. 20, 2005, 09:38:18 AM EST
                                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:57:06 AM EST
                                         Aww come-on . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (12) - Dec. 20, 2005, 11:10:25 AM EST
                                             Did they find the man they wanted... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 11:15:13 AM EST
                                                 I deal with the women too . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:37:38 PM EST
                                             All of it. Ignore all of it. - (bionerd) - (9) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:37:58 PM EST
                                                 *grin* - (imric) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:00:00 PM EST
                                                 Re: All of it. Ignore all of it. - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:34:30 PM EST
                                                 Oh bull - (broomberg) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:39:36 PM EST
                                                 Oh, I don't want to actually . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 21, 2005, 12:36:52 AM EST
                                                     My ex-fiance says - (imric) - (4) - Dec. 21, 2005, 07:10:00 AM EST
                                                         And there, of course, lies a problem. - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 21, 2005, 01:48:57 PM EST
                                                         fiance, eh? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 21, 2005, 01:58:30 PM EST
                                                             Yeah, yeah - so I dropped the extra e. - (imric) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2005, 02:18:13 PM EST
                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - Dec. 21, 2005, 05:02:59 PM EST
                                         Being a jerk certainly doesn't seem to be a turn-off - (imric) - (44) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:07:49 PM EST
                                             It is also necessary . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (41) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:39:11 PM EST
                                                 Bull. -NT - (bionerd) - (40) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:45:11 PM EST
                                                     Well, I'm glad to see you're feeling better. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (39) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:35:26 PM EST
                                                         I wish. - (bionerd) - (38) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:20:15 PM EST
                                                             Hang in there, L. Drink ginger ale if you can - often helps. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:24:30 PM EST
                                                                 Have been. - (bionerd) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:28:24 PM EST
                                                             But, but, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (15) - Dec. 22, 2005, 07:19:41 PM EST
                                                                 You may have won the battle - (bionerd) - (14) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:19:29 PM EST
                                                                     No no no. It's Ashton who does the dance. cha cha cha. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (6) - Dec. 22, 2005, 11:00:04 PM EST
                                                                         Ya, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:00:58 AM EST
                                                                             No need for the suit - (bionerd) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:36:55 AM EST
                                                                                 Well, I got out the drum and did a few . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:57:35 PM EST
                                                                                     I am so *pretty* - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:31:02 PM EST
                                                                                         Done - but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 23, 2005, 01:03:38 PM EST
                                                                                 yabut - (jbrabeck) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:13:50 AM EST
                                                                     Those are her words, but what are her actions? -NT - (tonytib) - (6) - Dec. 22, 2005, 11:56:19 PM EST
                                                                         That will be revealed in the fullness of time . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:10:14 AM EST
                                                                         oh ye of little faith... - (bionerd) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:38:50 AM EST
                                                                             "Jerks get all the girls" - (pwhysall) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:44:55 AM EST
                                                                             Geez, bio - (imric) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:20:11 PM EST
                                                                                 Ziiiiip - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:28:10 PM EST
                                                                                     *shrug* -NT - (imric) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:31:30 PM EST
                                                             I'm sorry to hear that, hope you recover fast - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:54:29 PM EST
                                                             Hey L, Sorry to hear you are battling the killer bug again. - (imqwerky) - (11) - Dec. 22, 2005, 11:23:44 PM EST
                                                                 God, Amy, just put the nail in my coffin.. - (bionerd) - (6) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:40:29 AM EST
                                                                     Drink Guinness. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:42:39 AM EST
                                                                         bloooorrrggg -NT - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:45:45 AM EST
                                                                             Funny. That's what *I* say after about 8 pints or so. -NT - (pwhysall) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:47:29 AM EST
                                                                         BRILLIANT! -NT - (bepatient) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:51:44 AM EST
                                                                     sorry :-( - (imqwerky) - (1) - Dec. 25, 2005, 12:21:31 AM EST
                                                                         remember cognac for chest whiskey for head - (boxley) - Dec. 25, 2005, 02:53:14 AM EST
                                                                 Whatever happened to chicken soup? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:44:43 AM EST
                                                                     You need to know which soul.... - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:21:48 AM EST
                                                                         Well, I figure 'Chicken Soup for the Chicken's Soul' . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:36:17 AM EST
                                                                 what do you mean "too cold for popsicles"? - (jbrabeck) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:16:54 AM EST
                                                             Only one suggestion - - (Ashton) - (6) - Dec. 23, 2005, 07:17:18 AM EST
                                                                 Its not the snow angels I'm worried about - (bionerd) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:31:36 AM EST
                                                                     Like I told my wife yesterday - (drewk) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:44:51 AM EST
                                                                         Is there a reason? - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:09:43 PM EST
                                                                             Just that we've had this discussion before - (drewk) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:19:38 PM EST
                                                                                 Ah. I thought it might have been something else. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:36:18 PM EST
                                                                                     Had same thoughts, especially since my sdaughter's news.. -NT - (jbrabeck) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:09:52 PM EST
                                             Who are you going to snag by being a jerk? - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:44:03 PM EST
                                                 I didn't say that. - (imric) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:58:26 PM EST
                                         Being the right kind of jerk apparently works on you - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 20, 2005, 01:25:43 PM EST
                                             Well, someone's clearly in the holiday spirit - (drewk) - (3) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:02:31 PM EST
                                                 Thank you. :-D -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:50:18 PM EST
                                                 is that before or after jerking the chain? -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:53:24 PM EST
                                                 Right after... - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:58:07 PM EST
                                         Of course, you did marry a jerk - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:58:05 PM EST
                                             Doesn't matter - (broomberg) - Dec. 20, 2005, 07:41:17 PM EST
                                             Unavoidable - the \ufffdber-Jerks are in Stealth mode the longest - (Ashton) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:25:28 PM EST
                                             Of course, if you had been more persistant - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:24:02 PM EST
                                                 +3: Innovation!___;^> -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 23, 2005, 07:19:55 AM EST
                             Being too nice gets no respect. - (tonytib) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:31:19 PM EST
                 Well, I kept communications lines open . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 18, 2005, 10:59:36 PM EST
                     Just hang out with me for a couple of weeks. - (broomberg) - Dec. 19, 2005, 06:18:29 AM EST
                     ask her if she has any loose friends you can nail -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 19, 2005, 09:34:12 AM EST
                     Hmmm . . . this book may not be so useful after all. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Dec. 19, 2005, 11:58:24 PM EST
                         And you thought it would be??? - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 09:39:28 AM EST
                             I'm sure the techniques in it are effective . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:56:40 AM EST

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