. . but I'll take a look and see if I can turn the techniques to more honerable objectives.

The experts tell me, my own observation tell me, and even women have told me, blatant maipulation is what they expect and the minimum for success. Women have told me flat out, and more than once, that I have to learn to lie to them or I'll get nowhere.

They're completely put off by an honest approach - until the moment they're tied to someone, of course - then they want it all to change.

Well, this is all discouraging and disappointing and certainly reduces my respect for women a great deal, and I've put off believing it for a long time - but though I'm a slow learner, I can learn.