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New The Red Staters got what they wanted
and everything that goes with it. You all wanted less government, YOU GOT IT!
Now, don't bitch because FEMA isn't worth a shit, or DHS. Shrub is only doing what y'all asked him to do. WAY TO GO!

Oh, and tell the nice folks in N.O. and Mississippi how much you care. I'm sure they'll believe every word you say. Especially when it comes to cutting funding for their Corps of Engineers, who knew that the levees were crap. God knows, that money is being better spent in Iraq. They understand. It's all about FREEDOM!

Gloriosky! :-P
Amy

Pray for the survivors of Katrina.
New Nope...
its better spend building bridges in Alaska.

And who's to say FEMA was better or worse this time? It's not been tested like this before. Course, the boss does seem to be a bit of an idiot, does he not?

If we weren't spending it in Iraq...I'm sure we'd have some other boondoggle to send our cash on...after all we've never been any good at helping our own no matter who is in office.

(oh..now someone will bring up FDR...nothing like current events)

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Aside from_____All__That__Relocation - - - -
And given the increasingly.. irreconcilable psychic differences..?
The now inescapable shrillness of the daily language murder:

We could try Secession again.

After all, we managed to reduce the idea of the Solemn Matter of Impeachment - all the way down to the pathetic politico-smarmy sanctimony of the last failed-charade.

Why not revisit secession?

There's no dialogue nor much prospect .. for .. .. .. a generation??
There's not even debate - all mouth/pen noises mirror the One-note YELLING of the Well-Paid Clowns, paid-pundit$ for cynical Corporate newsfotainment -
--- IT's A GOLD $MINE$ ---
Demagogues all:

Vastly-more on the Right, as That's where all the money Got-to.
(A 'Left' hasn't existed for decades here.)
Right-of-moderate is The New Left/Commie-pinkos,
the Why Do You Hate Murica So Much foci,
for all these personal interior Rage-sociopathies.

There remains not a Single vestige of:

Ed Murrow
Fred Friendly (!- his own acronym)
The American Mercury / H.L. Mencken
I.F. Stone
Twain
poor losing-it (?) Kurt Vonnegut
(or even our recently-departed, occasionally erudite News talking-head - but then he hailed from Canada)

(We do have squads of Father Couglans though - for any who want to see what the '30s were like. Here in God's Country)

Having outlived a handful who, in much slower times often kept us as nearer occasionally-honest
(as a religio-Capitalist daily-schemer Can approach that hoary, scary idea):

We have left only the plethora of Boomers,
a plague of hollow machine-MBAs stamped out like MCSEs,
in Highest Places and low.
An insatiable desire for More (for Me),
An uneducable large mass of folks -
Many of those confined in hamster-pens for far more than the 8 HOURS
(for which Prize ... many Union-scum died in its achievement).

Folks, many of whom have no idea and care not to have any:
re Who/What! McCarthy, Ed Murrow, James Welch were,
let alone what it was like to live under that earlier
(practice?? for PATRIOT-III - The Sequel)
oppression of the spirit, the mind and ..

the then daily pretense of something-about-'Jesus' (too)
as was inculcated so reflexively that -
few noticed their nodding-in-agreement:
to any fluffy-minded reference to some $Deity -
displayed on another one's shirtsleeve just *then*, and
demanding of one's Reassurance. (That it Must All Be So)


So:
I'd prefer the Separation,
conveniently located as I am - on the 'Left' Coast,
4th-Largest $Gross State/National $Product$ in the world,
how more cha-cha-cha need a one Be?
-- a small counterbalance--

to the Scripture-thumpers,
Rageaholics as infest mostly,
landlocked dreary patches as match
their internal landscape (apparently, quite well).




Where do we build the De-Enlistment kiosks?
New ooooh, what a cut, calling beep a microbowb
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
     Living paycheck to paycheck made leaving impossible. - (Another Scott) - (111)
         Wonder how many folks like these - (Ashton) - (109)
             78% Kerry - (altmann) - (108)
                 Oooh good source - thanks. - (Ashton) - (107)
                     Go ahead. - (bepatient) - (106)
                         Yeah, they said that about Strom Thrurmond too - (Ashton) - (5)
                             Sure. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                 Well, Strom did plenty of obfuscating . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                     So this justifies West's racism how, exactly? -NT - (bepatient) - (2)
                                         Side comment only - justifies nothing. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                             Sorry, the type of behavior demonstrated by the young man - (bepatient)
                         No, that's not what he said - (jake123) - (99)
                             Is it? - (bepatient) - (98)
                                 I just checked - (jake123) - (97)
                                     And that statement is less racist, how? - (bepatient) - (39)
                                         Emphatic disagreement - (ben_tilly) - (38)
                                             Exactly - (jake123)
                                             Disagree all you like - (bepatient) - (36)
                                                 He's most definitely not a cracker - (jake123)
                                                 I'll point to something specific - (ben_tilly) - (23)
                                                     Interesting counterpoint to... - (bepatient) - (22)
                                                         Point missed again: it's the Poor Ones as fly well under his - (Ashton)
                                                         BeeP calculus: - (jb4) - (17)
                                                             Methinks you've lost count. - (bepatient) - (16)
                                                                 There is no education cabinet minister - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                                                                     No, there's a Dept of Education - (bepatient) - (14)
                                                                         There seems to be a miscommunication or three - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                                                             Yes, was looking for ~ those words; especially re 'sane'. -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                             Ummmmmm . . . . . can you point me to . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                             Ok - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                                                 Can not let This sleeping-dog er.. Lie: - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                                     Difference? - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                         Vying for Mr. Objective Morality #2, here? with marlowe.. -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                                 Feel free... - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                                                                     couple of swings at the choice point ball if you please - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                         Well said. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                         If you want... - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                     You can be open minded. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                         Let's go back to that comment then, shall we? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                                             And so all is forigiven. - (bepatient)
                                                         Go back a couple of posts - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                             So you think that West... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                 I don't think that West thought this through - (ben_tilly)
                                                 "The haves and the have-mores." - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                     His "base"? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                         That'll be 1,000 points for Peter. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                 It's OK, Bill...You can still like the Berk if you want. - (jb4) - (7)
                                                     How easy it is... - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                         NO, it seems that the only thing that DOES float with you... - (jb4) - (5)
                                                             I see. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                 Your assertion has been inspected, dissected and - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                     I see you are suffering greatly... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                         Ah, desperation: the PTA exchange Red-Herring - (Ashton)
                                                                 I learn from a Master ... :-\ufffd -NT - (jb4)
                                     Naw, george doesnt care about poor people - (boxley) - (56)
                                         You got that right. - (imqwerky) - (55)
                                             I love naivite. - (bepatient) - (54)
                                                 Nah - ya likes to toss out simplistic digital slogans - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                     Not that I expected differently. - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                         GAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                             its always trickle down, donja recognise the amonia smell? -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                 Ah, the 'tinkle-down' yellow stuff: THAT ammonia. Parfait. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                     It's water-, not cream-based - I'd think that'd be a sorbet. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                         :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
                                                 only if the haves leave their stuff behind - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     Interesting case in point, I suppose. - (bepatient)
                                                 Naive my arse! - (imqwerky) - (44)
                                                     The only way to revive - (bepatient) - (43)
                                                         Your only form of exercise: jumping to conclusions. - (imqwerky) - (5)
                                                             Re: Your only form of exercise: jumping to conclusions. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                 The Red Staters got what they wanted - (imqwerky) - (3)
                                                                     Nope... - (bepatient)
                                                                     Aside from_____All__That__Relocation - - - - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                         ooooh, what a cut, calling beep a microbowb -NT - (boxley)
                                                         OTOH - (jake123)
                                                         Methinks you have way too blind an eye to that last \ufffd - (Ashton)
                                                         ... - (imric)
                                                         You seem rather naive - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
                                                             And so... - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                 Against all odds. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                     Re: Against all odds. - (bepatient)
                                                                 And thus you demonstrate, One More Time - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                     *nudge* - (imric)
                                                                 Bah. - (imric) - (1)
                                                                     Then we'd have to face inherited Empires - (Ashton)
                                                                 perhaps a few ideas - (boxley)
                                                                 <Sigh> (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                                                             Zope mucked the new addy in Econ - gotta alter header. -NT - (Ashton)
                                                         What you remind me of... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                                             Thats all well and good - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                 The 'middle class' does not require massive manufacturing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
                                                                     Trade and Commerce - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                         Sure they do - (drewk) - (2)
                                                                             I forgot that part. - (bepatient)
                                                                             I suspect that a monomolecular coat of Superglue keeps the - (Ashton)
                                                                         Trade and Commerce in todays world - (boxley)
                                                                         No, the trade that built the middle class . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                     Dupe -NT - (bepatient)
                                                         Yes, and how many middle class wage-paying jobs... - (jb4) - (12)
                                                             Dunno about wage level - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                                 A million manufacturing jobs created? Who YOU crappin'? -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                     actually - (bepatient)
                                                                 Don't go there, Bill. It's out of line. - (imric) - (8)
                                                                     Yabut he's Our pet troglodyte. - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                                         Actually - (imric) - (5)
                                                                             Re: Actually - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                                                 HIS troll bait? - (imric) - (3)
                                                                                     ;=) - (bepatient)
                                                                                     Troll 'bait' can be switched: works OK on you. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                         Hook sometimes taken...sometimes grazes the side. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                     I don't - (bepatient)
         Never any doubt. - (bepatient)

Oh, Dad! We're ALL Devo!
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