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New It was there just for you :)
As for "Run", I'm a firm believer in mis en place, so my recipes are divided into a "prep" (compile) section that can be done well in advance (often even days), and a "run time" section containing the steps that must be done just before serving.

Now a young man entertaining a lady should not resort to this method - it frightens women something awful to see a guy turn out complex dishes with so little apparent effort and they'll do a "Doug the Engineer" on you. It's necessary under those circumstances to get in trouble and need some help.
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New See, that's my problem
It's hard enough not jumping in when my mother-in-law is busily drying out a standing rib roast. To pretend I don't know something I'm actually quite good at just ain't going to happen.

Fortunately, I'm no longer trying to impress young women.
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New Actually, "mis en place" is dangerous with older women too.
They're kind of burned out on cooking, so after seeing you do a couple of apparently effortless meals it'll be "oh, but you're so much better at it" and you're stuck with all the cooking.

On the other hand, she can often be trained to wash all the dishes and stuff afterwards as a sex avoidance ploy. If you've served yourself enough wine you'll be long asleep by time she's done and showered - so she's home free and can get a good night's sleep.

Of course, if you've not servered yourself too much wine, you're going to be well rested in the morning and horney as a hoot owl and she's in trouble.

Actually, she's probably well rested too, and still half asleep and won't really mind that much.
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New Is this your experience with...
...with Rose (not her real name (also not her real name)) speaking?

Just wondering, you know... Wondering how you're going to explain this to her: Are you A) plastering your normal experience with *her* all over the Internet, or are you B) gathering this kind of experience with *another* woman?

Good luck with this one, Gryge! ;^>


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New I hope you don't really expect a response . . .
Actually, Rose (not her real name (also not her real name)) is too busy digging through the political stuff to read this forum anyway.
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus April 10, 2005, 03:30:49 PM EDT
New That doesn't work either
Ever since I worked in a restaurant, I can't cook without cleaning as I go. By the time I'm plating the food, there's only the one or two last pans to clean, and they're either wiped out or soaking before I sit down to eat. I'd actually rather do the cooking myself than have to clean up someone else's mess.
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New Yeahbut . . .
There's still the plates , wine glasses silverware and that sort of thing. Women can take a lot of time on that stuff if there's no automatic dishwasher.
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New Good point
And if it were up to me we wouldn't waste cabinet space on a diswasher.
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New You're way off base again
I would gladly do the dishes in exchange for a fine meal (even a mediocre meal), and the faster I got done, the faster I could move on to thanking him.

You're hanging out with the wrong women.
Expand Edited by bionerd April 11, 2005, 09:21:11 AM EDT
New Well, that's what people tell me . .
. . but when I ask where these "right" women hang out, they just look up at the ceiling and say, "You just have to go out there and find them". In other words, they haven't a clue where any might be either.
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New Guess we're in the same boat.
I dont know where the right men hang out, either.
New You two should get a room :-P
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Couldn't have said it better myself:)
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Expand Edited by jake123 April 11, 2005, 01:10:24 PM EDT
New Whew!
In the last week I've been advised to get a room with Folkert, Nightowl and now Andrew. If I heeded your advice I'd be a very busy woman. ;-P
New But you've been complaining how un-busy you are...
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New It has become a meme :-)
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New I'm wondering why you're keeping track. :-)

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Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
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Please

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New You're kidding me, right?
IMO, there is nothing sexier than a man who knows his way around the kitchen, especially since I hate to cook. It's wonderful to lounge with a glass of wine watching a man do his thing. It makes a gal feel pampered.
Expand Edited by bionerd April 11, 2005, 09:20:28 AM EDT
New This is why...
...I've taken to preparing meals for the family on Sunday. I love to cook, but during the week, I work until at least 5. My fiancee gets to stay home and take care of everyone (me plus her (well, our) two kids.) Part of that is cooking, even if it's just ANOTHER job for her to do. So I give her Sundays off from the cooking dutiees, and it gets me a chance to cook for the whole family. It's good to teach the kids (two boys) that Men Can Cook, Too.
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New Yes, but we know you're not normal -
you post on IWeThey.

Women love to bitch about men not sharing the cooking, and may even have convinced themselves of that, but it's rarely true. Most women consider the kitchen their power base and their cooking a major leverage over their men and are uncomfortable yielding that leverage.

Wise men stay away and restrict their cooking to throwing slabs of raw cow over hot coals and "improving" it by brushing on some potion that ruins it - after which they beat their chests and boast of their grilling prowess. Regardless of what they say, this is what most women want.
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New Not mine
I do all the cooking... at least when we lived together. Since I'm far far more competent than she is in the kitchen (she can burn water) it's just been better that way.
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New Don't agree
Well, that's not true for the circles I move in, anyhow.


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New I think this is one of those "american culture" things.
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New Nah. Some do, some don't
My wife and I are both rather good cooks. She's more traditional, as in the way her mother used to do it. I tend to experiment more. Depending on what we are making, we sometimes even cooperate, but not very often. I do a lot of the prep work for her if I'm around.
We have friends who are like Andrew described.
Other friends just regard food as fuel and don't really care if it was nicely prepared or dumped from a can.
It's hard to generalize.
New Sweeping generalisations 'r' us...
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
New Well, how else . . .
. . are we able to offend the maximum number of people with the minimum effort? Efficiency counts!
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     Hard facts for Ethical Vegetarians - (Andrew Grygus) - (102)
         That last bit has occurred to me too. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             Meet the meat - (ChrisR) - (1)
                 ObHHGTTG scene at Milliways - (Another Scott)
             Factory animal ethics. - (Andrew Grygus)
         For me, it's not about ethics - (bionerd) - (87)
             Know where you're coming from, but... - (Another Scott) - (83)
                 Urg. You've been processed out of the food chain. - (FuManChu) - (3)
                     Maybe I wasn't clear. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                         Implication that thinking so was wrong somehow - (FuManChu) - (1)
                             Partially. - (Another Scott)
                 Serendipity strikes again! - (Andrew Grygus) - (78)
                     How Roly Poly! -NT - (imric) - (13)
                         They're certainly not playing the drums! -NT - (admin)
                         Eat them up, yum! ___________________________________Or not. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11)
                             I managed to "mechanically separate" . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                 Reminds me of a friend in middle school. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Well actually . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                             Imric, Admin and Another Scott - (lincoln) - (7)
                                 Dr. Demento was everywhere... :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     keyword: "WAS" - (lincoln)
                                 Add one more. - (bepatient)
                                 The rolly polly fish heads? - (SpiceWare) - (3)
                                     Bill Paxton & Bill Mummy?!?! - (SpiceWare) - (2)
                                         I used to fantasize - (bionerd)
                                         typo - it's Bill Mumy - (lincoln)
                     The final outcome. - (Andrew Grygus) - (54)
                         Oh screw that - (drewk) - (1)
                             Which is exactly why . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                         And here we have it! - (Andrew Grygus) - (51)
                             You have that kind of time in the morning - (bionerd) - (50)
                                 Andrew has a very short commute. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                                 Get up earlier, then. - (pwhysall) - (19)
                                     I cannot tolerate too little sleep - (bionerd) - (18)
                                         I don't do perky in under 9. -NT - (admin) - (4)
                                             s/ in under 9// -NT - (Yendor) - (3)
                                                 Given opportunity, I'm quite sure that admin would do perky! - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                     These are your words, and not mine... -NT - (admin) - (1)
                                                         "Plausible deniability" Uh huh. -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                         Go to bed earlier, then. - (pwhysall) - (12)
                                             In order to be able to rise at 05-frigging-30 ??? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                                 You'll notice those who rise at 5:30am are very healthy . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                 Yer gettin' old. - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                                     Old??? Bah, whippersnapper -- until just a few years ago... - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                         "When ah were a lad..." - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                             What ezz thees... - (folkert) - (3)
                                                                 That stands befo-ore me -NT - (jake123) - (2)
                                                                     Figure in black that points at me? -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                                                                         HA! Great! -NT - (folkert)
                                                     not to be rushed for sure, - (boxley)
                                             Hey, BTW! - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 Re: You have that kind of time in the morning? - (Andrew Grygus)
                                 Another breakfast - (bionerd safe). - (Andrew Grygus) - (27)
                                     A) ObSpellNit: "supErb" B) Step 3, "RUN" - where to and why? -NT - (CRConrad) - (26)
                                         It was there just for you :) - (Andrew Grygus) - (25)
                                             See, that's my problem - (drewk) - (15)
                                                 Actually, "mis en place" is dangerous with older women too. - (Andrew Grygus) - (14)
                                                     Is this your experience with... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                         I hope you don't really expect a response . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                     That doesn't work either - (drewk) - (2)
                                                         Yeahbut . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                             Good point - (drewk)
                                                     You're way off base again - (bionerd) - (8)
                                                         Well, that's what people tell me . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
                                                             Guess we're in the same boat. - (bionerd) - (6)
                                                                 You two should get a room :-P -NT - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                                                     Couldn't have said it better myself:) -NT - (jake123) - (4)
                                                                         Whew! - (bionerd) - (3)
                                                                             But you've been complaining how un-busy you are... -NT - (Yendor)
                                                                             It has become a meme :-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                                             I'm wondering why you're keeping track. :-) -NT - (static)
                                             You're kidding me, right? - (bionerd) - (8)
                                                 This is why... - (Yendor)
                                                 Yes, but we know you're not normal - - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                                                     Not mine - (jake123)
                                                     Don't agree - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                         I think this is one of those "american culture" things. -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                                                             Nah. Some do, some don't - (hnick)
                                                     Sweeping generalisations 'r' us... -NT - (Meerkat) - (1)
                                                         Well, how else . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Hmmmm, my wife would like those... - (tonytib) - (8)
                         ICLRPD - (imric) - (7)
                             And someday I won't - (drewk) - (6)
                                 You gotta get yourself out on Sunday to have some - (jake123) - (5)
                                     Well, spicy is good, too - (tonytib) - (4)
                                         That's the truth - (jake123) - (3)
                                             No, there's one printed menu - (tonytib) - (2)
                                                 Love to be able, but I don't have a Chinese wife - (drewk) - (1)
                                                     No way! -NT - (tonytib)
             There is simply no reason to eat stuff you don't like. - (Andrew Grygus)
             Three words for you - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 I fail to be horrified by that. - (Andrew Grygus)
         On vegetarian pets - (drewk) - (9)
             My dog eats carrots -NT - (bionerd) - (1)
                 So do mine - (hnick)
             My DOGS will eat Veggies only when... - (folkert) - (2)
                 Spoiled little girly dogs........... -NT - (bionerd) - (1)
                     Why, yes, how did you know? - (folkert)
             Know cats that eat asparagus, broccoli - readily. -NT - (Ashton)
             anything dropped disappeared - (SpiceWare) - (1)
                 Mine doesn't like bananna. - (Another Scott)
             My ex-wife's cat went nuts over any type of bread. - (Silverlock)

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