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New By that logic...
In fact, just about all 22 Arab states were created after WWI and are completely artificial.


By that standard...The countires of eastern Europe, southeast Asia, Most of Africa, and the Orient are similarly artificial. That in no way illigitimizes them, however.

And has been pointed out, this also, pointedly includes Isreal.
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New My point was
That they have no more rights to the West Bank then Israel does
New ...And no FEWER rights, either!
Don't try to spin yourself into an untenable poisition. Just admit you put your foot into your mouth on this one and lets get on to more important things.
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New Boys.. Boys!!___ it's much simpler than that -
I couldn't find it via a Google search:

"Why Men Love War" + book

A good look: the idea appears a Popular one for massive explanation. I do recall a book with that title from the '50s. Too. Prolly many others previous.

Plus de choses changent, plus qu'ils restent les m\ufffdmes.
The more things change...
:[

Logic.. shall buy us Nothing in the infinite Whyfors? of the stimulus-response game, a mere fa\ufffdade for the neverending temptation to Prove (onceandforall) Mine's Bigger.



{sigh}




..full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
W. Shakespeare RIP
New Oh, quit being so offensively neutral, "boy"!
Don't go fucking "boys" in the plural, as if they were somehow "equally to blame" for not seeing eye to eye!

The fact is, Irish Whiskey is a reasonably reasonable shrewd debater, while Blooke is a one-eyed rabid fuckwit, spouting ludicrous "defenses" of a fucking fascistoid policy of genocide (or at least, "close enough for government work".)

Jumping on Whiskey Boy "just as much", given that background (in your terms, Blooke's _I_S_ smaller), is fucking well offensive in and of itself.
   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
New Ooo Ooo
And what am I?
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
New A wimp?
Didn't we do this last week? :-)

But hey, it's OK... You're *our* wimp!
   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
New Neutral! may ass
Uniform maybe. This fucking death-besotted species is nosing around - as fucking Usual - for some next way to dare Everyone on show&tell: let's see Who IS Biggest? the #$$$# Xian techno-Armies? or one o' the other #\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd# He-God mobs with pitchforks & mustard gas & mind-erased *Boys* with Semtex bandoliers [??] Place yer bets.

We ain't 'safe' with using language for reasoning - and we sure as shit ain't safe with nukes anywhere near any of us. Neutral!? - Hah: a fucking pox* on All the bloody techno-toy Armies, and especially: their *Inciters*, those sanctimonious old farts -bearded and bald- who send off the Boys to fuck-up as much as can be fucked-up. (God Made Me Do It. Again.)

* a pox that s l o w s Everything down.. so's that some of that river of testosterone flow to the balls, can get diverted Upwards for awhile: to what's left of the species-brain.

Or at least: Everyone Go Shopping. Or beat up a few Football watchers. Do something else inane, comfy and typical - that still screws up the planetary resources, only.. a bit s l o w e r.

Any questions?


{SheesH}
New "Irish Whiskey"?
Hmmmm...
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New Yeah, they can't spell "Whisky".
Or did'ya mean "JB" isn't Irish? Then what is it? (I'm fairly sure it isn't real Whisky, anyway.)

Murkin Beuhbunn, perhaps? (And what the *fuck* does the Royal House of France have to do with some nekulturnyj Colonial maize-brew anyway?!?)

Oh, who cares... I only drink the Grouse, anyway.
   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
New Either "J&B" (a pretty good blended whisky)
though certainly not the best, or, more likely --

Johnnie Walker Black Label ("Jack Black"), top grade of the best, as you say, Murriacan Corn Squeezin's.

Don't care for the stuff myself, but then, I'm the one who's unhappy that he can no longer get Doppelkorn Schnapps [the old-fashioned, pure-quill stuff, not the wimpy pepperminz c..p]
Regards,
Ric
New Also
There's Jim Beam (obviously no relation) which is yer basic hooch.

But I feel your pain re: Doppelkorn...

(But have you tried Ratzeputz...?)
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New Real Men\ufffd drink, er sip Armagnac.. (Women are too smart to)
New Armagnac? Fancy name
and since I can't get doppelkorn, I shall simply have to find a car old enough to have a solid-brass radiator [funny, a couple dead ones right outside the window; fancy that] and go into business for myself.

Hm. It's been awhile, and it's remarkable how many things are on the market today that look, er, really handy for such an enterprise. Especially the newfangled notion of deposit/return propane cylinders -- the gas ring from an old water heater, with about three-quarters of the slots closed up, connected to an RV regulator and a five-gallon cylinder, should be just the thing for gentle heating of, say, a fifty-gallon vat. Foo on woodcutting. I shall save my mesquite for barbecuing... by the way, clear corn-squeezins, with a bit of black pepper and a few other useful spices, makes a marvelous tenderizing marinade for venison.

Co-conspirators?
Regards,
Ric
New ...for Apfelkorn! (Naah, not really.)
New The trouble w/ Apfelkorn...
...is that it's too sweet for day-to-day drinking. It's very good on occasion, but it's not for front-line getting smashed....
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New Only Jim Beam?
There's also the (belch) Jack Daniels.
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
New But Jack's initials are NOT "JB"
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
     American "Palestinians" la raza - (boxley) - (46)
         They are right - (bluke) - (41)
             lol. Bluke, you are so bitter - (cwbrenn)
             That would be funny... - (bepatient)
             Let's give it back to the Apache. - (marlowe) - (38)
                 Utes, Navajo, and Hopi IIRC. -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                 And why not? (msg) -NT - (bluke) - (36)
                     Perhaps for the same reason... - (jb4) - (35)
                         A little history - (bluke) - (34)
                             Is that like Israel? - (a6l6e6x) - (15)
                                 Gobbledygook. Pangyria for the Pangyrians. -NT - (Ashton)
                                 In a way, yes - (bluke)
                                 Not really - (bluke) - (12)
                                     So what? There were other people there before *that*! - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                         Do you know any Ur-Canaanites? - (bluke) - (3)
                                             For suitably twisted values of "cease" and "continous". - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                 I feel sorry for you - (bluke) - (1)
                                                     Bingo! - (CRConrad)
                                     Legalistic gooblygook at its finest. - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                                         Based on what does all else belong to someone else - (bluke) - (3)
                                             Same old same old BS from BS-Luke - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                 So then - take back the artificial creation of 'Saud'i - (Ashton)
                                                 Same old lack of historical knowledge from you - (bluke)
                                         Amazing - (bluke) - (1)
                                             Re: Amazing - (a6l6e6x)
                             By that logic... - (jb4) - (17)
                                 My point was - (bluke) - (16)
                                     ...And no FEWER rights, either! - (jb4) - (15)
                                         Boys.. Boys!!___ it's much simpler than that - - (Ashton) - (14)
                                             Oh, quit being so offensively neutral, "boy"! - (CRConrad) - (13)
                                                 Ooo Ooo - (wharris2) - (1)
                                                     A wimp? - (CRConrad)
                                                 Neutral! may ass - (Ashton)
                                                 "Irish Whiskey"? - (jb4) - (9)
                                                     Yeah, they can't spell "Whisky". - (CRConrad) - (8)
                                                         Either "J&B" (a pretty good blended whisky) - (Ric Locke) - (7)
                                                             Also - (jb4) - (6)
                                                                 Real Men\ufffd drink, er sip Armagnac.. (Women are too smart to) -NT - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                                     Armagnac? Fancy name - (Ric Locke) - (2)
                                                                         ...for Apfelkorn! (Naah, not really.) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                             The trouble w/ Apfelkorn... - (jb4)
                                                                 Only Jim Beam? - (wharris2) - (1)
                                                                     But Jack's initials are NOT "JB" -NT - (jb4)
         What is the point - (JayMehaffey) - (3)
             What will your reaction be ... - (bluke) - (2)
                 Depends - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                     Me too. But then you and I would end up in a New - (Ashton)

"The professor in a thong"?
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