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Post #174,932

by Nightowl

9/18/04 10:07:57 AM

Well, I consider that...

the greatest harm I know which was done to man was Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and they weren't destroyed in the name of God.

So I can't agree with you that history is on your side in this issue.

Nightowl >8#

"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends."
(Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).

Post #174,945

by jake123

9/18/04 1:10:34 PM

You'd be wrong

there are many far worse examples than those two. In terms of people killed/maimed, they're pretty penny ante in fact.

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Heartbreaking - (tuberculosis) - (113) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:42:07 PM EDT

I'm confused...--- here's the story - (Nightowl) - (1) - Sept. 16, 2004, 08:39:32 PM EDT

Alana is a fairly common name. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 17, 2004, 12:29:01 PM EDT

A thousand years in prison... - (pwhysall) - (109) - Sept. 17, 2004, 12:11:28 AM EDT

I have that sense as well. - (mmoffitt) - (106) - Sept. 17, 2004, 12:30:17 PM EDT

It's not about religion - (imric) - (105) - Sept. 17, 2004, 12:53:50 PM EDT

But religion bars any reason. - (mmoffitt) - (104) - Sept. 17, 2004, 01:02:29 PM EDT

Could substitute "politics" for "religion" there. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 17, 2004, 01:31:17 PM EDT

Or anything else - (Nightowl) - Sept. 17, 2004, 01:49:24 PM EDT

"getting the lunatic to abandon what he holds most dear" - (imric) - (35) - Sept. 17, 2004, 03:28:07 PM EDT

Any? Perhaps. - (mmoffitt) - (34) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:38:45 PM EDT

Re: Any? Perhaps. - (Nightowl) - (9) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:44:20 PM EDT

If a Christian does not believe anyone should be condemned.. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:55:25 PM EDT

There's a difference - (Nightowl) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:01:41 PM EDT

Uhhh, Owlsley... - (jb4) - (6) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:26:23 PM EDT

Let me clarify - (Nightowl) - (5) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:31:19 PM EDT

Re: Let me clarify - (jb4) - (3) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:50:19 PM EDT

Not forgetting... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2004, 03:36:25 AM EDT

How could I forget...! - (jb4) - Sept. 20, 2004, 12:49:49 PM EDT

Unfortunately (new thread) - (Nightowl) - Sept. 18, 2004, 09:56:23 AM EDT

On Christian churches... (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Sept. 17, 2004, 07:38:14 PM EDT

You sure? - (imric) - (23) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:07:13 PM EDT

Very well stated - (Nightowl) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:10:46 PM EDT

I am condemning that which nurtures... - (mmoffitt) - (21) - Sept. 17, 2004, 07:32:14 PM EDT

"History is on my side" - (imric) - (18) - Sept. 17, 2004, 08:01:23 PM EDT

Alexander of Macedonia, - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 17, 2004, 08:18:35 PM EDT

Religion is not the only motivation for slaughter. - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Sept. 18, 2004, 02:22:01 AM EDT

And, of course - (imric) - Sept. 18, 2004, 08:58:00 AM EDT

The "chosen people" do have many more - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 18, 2004, 12:39:40 PM EDT

"You Have to be Carefully Taught - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2004, 06:11:33 AM EDT

For Those Too Lazy To Google - (pwhysall) - Sept. 18, 2004, 06:41:36 AM EDT

See Jesus 'quote' in this thread re:The Civil War. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - Sept. 18, 2004, 07:20:16 AM EDT

See my first post, re justification. - (imric) - (10) - Sept. 18, 2004, 08:20:30 AM EDT

Well yes - that's 'true' - (Ashton) - (7) - Sept. 18, 2004, 09:28:05 PM EDT

Believe it or not, I understand and somewhat agree - (imric) - (6) - Sept. 18, 2004, 11:50:25 PM EDT

'Religion' oft has little or zippo to do with 'spirituality' - (Ashton) - (5) - Sept. 19, 2004, 02:59:44 AM EDT

Uh huh. - (imric) - (4) - Sept. 19, 2004, 08:40:55 AM EDT

A little more explanation please? - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 19, 2004, 02:03:12 PM EDT

With Ash, it can be sometimes hard, - (imric) - (1) - Sept. 19, 2004, 02:21:33 PM EDT

Trust me, I know that - (Nightowl) - Sept. 19, 2004, 02:35:12 PM EDT

Heh.. I 'splain how ya can end war n'stuff (new thread) - (Ashton) - Sept. 20, 2004, 04:20:23 AM EDT

I see nothing wrong with that posistion - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2004, 10:25:53 PM EDT

*smile* -NT - (imric) - Sept. 18, 2004, 11:52:57 PM EDT

Well, I consider that... - (Nightowl) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2004, 10:07:57 AM EDT

You'd be wrong - (jake123) - Sept. 18, 2004, 01:10:34 PM EDT

The base of religion is faith - (Simon_Jester) - (65) - Sept. 17, 2004, 04:51:04 PM EDT

Counter-example to your last. - (mmoffitt) - (63) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:25:06 PM EDT

Huh? No way! - (Nightowl) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:32:08 PM EDT

What you just said is a sin - (Arkadiy) - (57) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:35:55 PM EDT

Just read the texts, man. - (mmoffitt) - (56) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:44:57 PM EDT

The Lord - (Arkadiy) - (55) - Sept. 17, 2004, 05:48:28 PM EDT

Exactly - (Nightowl) - Sept. 17, 2004, 06:08:52 PM EDT

The [owner] thing wasn't mine. - (mmoffitt) - (53) - Sept. 17, 2004, 07:35:06 PM EDT

None so dumb as who won't think. -NT - (Arkadiy) - (52) - Sept. 17, 2004, 08:16:32 PM EDT

Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (51) - Sept. 18, 2004, 07:18:03 AM EDT

That's evidence? - (imric) - Sept. 18, 2004, 08:48:48 AM EDT

What third parties? - (Arkadiy) - (49) - Sept. 18, 2004, 12:41:20 PM EDT

Interpretation? You're interpretting ferchrissakes. - (mmoffitt) - (48) - Sept. 20, 2004, 12:09:25 PM EDT

Not even close - (Nightowl) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2004, 12:33:59 PM EDT

<sigh> - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 20, 2004, 12:42:10 PM EDT

Not sure - (Nightowl) - (4) - Sept. 20, 2004, 12:46:07 PM EDT

The nut. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2004, 12:54:57 PM EDT

Ah ok - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2004, 01:00:14 PM EDT

NO! - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2004, 02:56:43 PM EDT

Same thing - (Nightowl) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:28:44 PM EDT

No kudos to you for repeating - (imric) - (8) - Sept. 20, 2004, 01:04:54 PM EDT

Huh? - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Sept. 20, 2004, 02:54:43 PM EDT

Go ahead - change your point - (imric) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:14:38 PM EDT

Yes! - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:30:53 PM EDT

*chuckle* - (imric) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:33:05 PM EDT

True, but - (Nightowl) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:46:11 PM EDT

Hey, that's *graduate* philosophies ;-) - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:39:17 PM EDT

Is it? - (imric) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2004, 04:00:05 PM EDT

Re: Is it? - (Nightowl) - Sept. 20, 2004, 04:34:41 PM EDT

Ego is Id - (ChrisR) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2004, 01:15:19 PM EDT

I'm not sure about a non-theist, because I'm not one. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2004, 02:49:04 PM EDT

So which passage says that we should commit violence? - (ChrisR) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2004, 04:09:03 PM EDT

Wow, great response! - (Nightowl) - Sept. 20, 2004, 04:39:34 PM EDT

I guess it all depends on what's - (Arkadiy) - (27) - Sept. 20, 2004, 02:55:05 PM EDT

I could be wrong about this, but I think "case" - (mmoffitt) - (26) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:06:59 PM EDT

It's a parable - (Arkadiy) - (25) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:13:18 PM EDT

Re: It's a parable - (Nightowl) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:43:11 PM EDT

"New Covenant" hmmmmmmm..... - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2004, 09:27:32 AM EDT

Ooops -- ignore.. moving to religion as requested - (Nightowl) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2004, 11:40:13 AM EDT

I have no idea what you're talking about (new thread) - (Nightowl) - Sept. 21, 2004, 11:41:00 AM EDT

The "unbelievers" are a class. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:46:09 PM EDT

How is that clear? - (Nightowl) - Sept. 20, 2004, 03:50:28 PM EDT

Oh my. A class. - (Arkadiy) - (18) - Sept. 20, 2004, 05:56:31 PM EDT

Psssst! Don't tell Bryce..... -NT - (jb4) - (12) - Sept. 20, 2004, 06:21:25 PM EDT

Remember, the meek shall inherit the earth... -NT - (pwhysall) - (11) - Sept. 20, 2004, 06:24:15 PM EDT

And what did poor bastards do to deserver such fate? -NT - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 20, 2004, 06:43:10 PM EDT

6' deep 6' long and 4' wide -NT - (boxley) - (8) - Sept. 20, 2004, 09:17:15 PM EDT

4' wide?????? - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2004, 09:37:45 PM EDT

take a measuring tape to your next funeral 4' wide -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2004, 09:37:24 AM EDT

Was just at a wake (new thread) - (Nightowl) - Sept. 21, 2004, 11:42:40 AM EDT

And it's Christian thing to share... - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - Sept. 20, 2004, 09:48:53 PM EDT

Okay, that's it - (jake123) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2004, 11:18:01 PM EDT

Well, we tried earlier - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2004, 11:24:44 PM EDT

YOU ALL SUCK - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2004, 03:13:26 AM EDT

Oddly enough, I got it (new thread) - (orion) - Sept. 23, 2004, 10:56:58 PM EDT

Since when was Bryce meek? -NT - (jb4) - Sept. 21, 2004, 01:07:16 PM EDT

Almost, but not quite. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Sept. 21, 2004, 09:24:21 AM EDT

Read it carefully - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Sept. 21, 2004, 09:34:10 AM EDT

You made my point. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2004, 08:55:56 PM EDT

Ashton mode on - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2004, 08:59:18 AM EDT

I like [referent] mode better. - (Ashton) - Sept. 22, 2004, 07:11:50 PM EDT

Re: Counter-example to your last. - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 17, 2004, 07:36:20 PM EDT

No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition! - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2004, 03:44:00 AM EDT

Thanks! I was waiting for that ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 18, 2004, 07:17:17 AM EDT

And who commissioned that Inquisition? Church or state? -NT - (FuManChu) - Sept. 21, 2004, 01:43:24 PM EDT

Been there. Done that. - (Ashton) - Sept. 18, 2004, 07:17:29 AM EDT

Electicity is quicker and cheaper! - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Sept. 17, 2004, 12:45:21 PM EDT

You got you a mean streak in ya.... -NT - (jb4) - Sept. 17, 2004, 01:29:47 PM EDT

One note (images included) - (jake123) - Sept. 17, 2004, 02:20:58 PM EDT

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