(new) Patent Wars and Antitrust

MS: "you don't have to buy an XBox bundle" Really. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 10, 2001, 11:15:02 AM EDT

Re: MS: "you don't have to buy an XBox bundle" Really. - (Fearless Freep) - (4) - Sept. 10, 2001, 11:52:10 AM EDT

Gee, that's the exact same thing that caught my eye - (drewk) - Sept. 10, 2001, 12:00:16 PM EDT

Yea, I follow the news as much as I can too - (Steven A S) - Sept. 10, 2001, 01:41:16 PM EDT

MeToo: that sentence just.. Says It All - (Ashton) - Sept. 10, 2001, 05:39:56 PM EDT

You still don't get it, do you... - (jb4) - Sept. 11, 2001, 09:18:14 AM EDT

Nevermind the bundle. - (wharris2) - Sept. 10, 2001, 10:18:33 PM EDT

Rep. Conyers to DOJ, "WTF?" - (Silverlock) - (10) - Sept. 10, 2001, 11:11:12 AM EDT

Visiting a Microsoft Office - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 10, 2001, 02:27:01 PM EDT

One result - planned or not? - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Sept. 10, 2001, 04:33:16 PM EDT

Snort (MIcrosoft's position) - (wharris2) - Sept. 10, 2001, 05:34:41 PM EDT

Diplomacy at work... - (static) - (6) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:18:55 AM EDT

The DOJ commits on the 21st . . but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:38:57 AM EDT

The 'diminished capacity' alternative - (Ashton) - (4) - Sept. 11, 2001, 05:42:30 AM EDT

Brilliant. Just brilliant. - (static) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 07:25:23 AM EDT

*blush*... via concentration from afar - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 13, 2001, 01:15:40 AM EDT

Are you talking about Justice Kent? - (wharris2) - (1) - Sept. 13, 2001, 01:34:54 AM EDT

Exactamente! thanks; bookmarked - (Ashton) - Sept. 13, 2001, 04:44:08 AM EDT

Hmmm - I smell a good settlement - a done deal !!! - (dmarker2) - (10) - Sept. 7, 2001, 11:08:07 AM EDT

I don't want this. - (admin) - (5) - Sept. 7, 2001, 11:24:29 AM EDT

California and NY may not like it either. - (brettj) - (4) - Sept. 9, 2001, 10:59:47 AM EDT

Dream on.. - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 9, 2001, 07:00:02 PM EDT

Is it foolish to think that justice will prevail?! - (brettj) - (1) - Sept. 9, 2001, 08:36:00 PM EDT

I goofed on that one . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 9, 2001, 09:35:10 PM EDT

Under a microscope... - (jb4) - Sept. 11, 2001, 09:20:25 AM EDT

I must agree with Admin - (warmachine) - (1) - Sept. 7, 2001, 12:33:59 PM EDT

I didn't say structural change was needed. - (admin) - Sept. 7, 2001, 12:42:15 PM EDT

Half-related - (wharris2) - (1) - Sept. 9, 2001, 10:10:15 PM EDT

That's a weak area w/many conservatives - (tonytib) - Sept. 10, 2001, 05:33:45 PM EDT

Checkout the shape of this graph (MSFT) ? - (Ashton) - (4) - Sept. 6, 2001, 07:08:25 PM EDT

Hate to tell, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Sept. 6, 2001, 10:20:08 PM EDT

are you saying time to get out of NASDAQ? -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 7, 2001, 08:21:18 AM EDT

you mean like this - (cforde) - (1) - Sept. 7, 2001, 12:04:54 PM EDT

Nice: M$ joins asymptotically (from below) - a death spiral? - (Ashton) - Sept. 7, 2001, 05:56:32 PM EDT

Bloomberg: US won't seek breakup, drops tying claim. - (Another Scott) - (19) - Sept. 6, 2001, 10:36:30 AM EDT

Figures... - (Simon_Jester) - (10) - Sept. 6, 2001, 10:48:46 AM EDT

Ya know... - (addison) - (9) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:19:58 AM EDT

Yeah, right. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:05:28 PM EDT

Re: Yeah, right. - (addison) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:24:53 PM EDT

You're more optimistic than I am. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:42:09 PM EDT

yeah, but... - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:19:49 PM EDT

Think of parole... - (addison) - (4) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:35:05 PM EDT

If? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:47:53 PM EDT

Maybe. - (addison) - Sept. 6, 2001, 01:08:13 PM EDT

Add... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2001, 01:05:56 PM EDT

No. I'm talking about the difference between then and now. - (addison) - Sept. 6, 2001, 01:18:59 PM EDT

No matter... - (Yendor) - (5) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:00:59 AM EDT

States joined DOJ in statement. Propose Jackson's remedies. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:17:14 AM EDT

Good remedies. - (admin) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:30:43 AM EDT

That covers the two worst problems - (drewk) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:40:54 AM EDT

As to just boot loader provisions - (Ashton) - Sept. 6, 2001, 05:01:53 PM EDT

Going for speed - (Silverlock) - Sept. 6, 2001, 02:44:41 PM EDT

Don't know how much difference it makes - (wharris2) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:21:33 AM EDT

This isn't new - (warmachine) - Sept. 6, 2001, 11:34:50 AM EDT

EU turns up the heat on MS - (dmarker2) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2001, 11:08:49 PM EDT

I like the take from Forbes - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 31, 2001, 12:43:12 PM EDT

MSFT down to 57, as in April -3.31 (-5.49%) - (Ashton) - Aug. 30, 2001, 07:59:18 PM EDT

EU probes Microsoft use of Media Player - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Aug. 30, 2001, 12:39:30 PM EDT

We can only hope that the probe.... - (Silverlock) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2001, 03:17:21 PM EDT

ROFL. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 30, 2001, 04:40:15 PM EDT

Bill Gates's way, or no way - (addison) - (105) - Aug. 29, 2001, 12:33:21 PM EDT

A lesson - - (imric) - (104) - Aug. 29, 2001, 05:52:42 PM EDT

At last I see, the only viable solution next: - (Ashton) - Aug. 29, 2001, 09:25:47 PM EDT

Wrong lesson. - (addison) - (102) - Aug. 29, 2001, 09:36:45 PM EDT

This faith may not be entirely misplaced but.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 29, 2001, 11:08:56 PM EDT

And the Thousand Year Reich would have corrected itself . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Aug. 30, 2001, 02:16:16 AM EDT

Touch\ufffd____cackle___cackle_____Market Forces for Dummies\ufffd - (Ashton) - Aug. 30, 2001, 06:03:23 AM EDT

Markets, Andrew, not Governments. - (addison) - (5) - Aug. 30, 2001, 09:38:10 AM EDT

False Godwin. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2001, 10:39:19 AM EDT

False False godwin. - (addison) - Aug. 30, 2001, 11:19:19 AM EDT

I fail to see the difference. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Aug. 30, 2001, 11:32:44 AM EDT

The one sentence version - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 30, 2001, 11:57:39 AM EDT

I agree, its a failing. :) - (addison) - Aug. 30, 2001, 01:28:37 PM EDT

I disagree. - (Another Scott) - (15) - Aug. 30, 2001, 10:04:50 AM EDT

Re: I disagree. - (addison) - (14) - Aug. 30, 2001, 11:38:00 AM EDT

The infrastructure would still be there . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Aug. 30, 2001, 12:02:42 PM EDT

That's a "presume" not a "simply". - (addison) - (3) - Aug. 30, 2001, 01:31:49 PM EDT

What's Microsoft's ratio of "plants, trucks, etc"... - (CRConrad) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2001, 01:55:20 PM EDT

Erm. I think you got mixed up. - (addison) - Aug. 30, 2001, 02:16:00 PM EDT

Counterexample. - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 30, 2001, 05:02:12 PM EDT

SOAP - (Decco Dave) - (8) - Sept. 1, 2001, 11:28:08 AM EDT

Needs more washing - (addison) - (3) - Sept. 1, 2001, 11:56:40 AM EDT

Re: Needs more washing - (Decco Dave) - (2) - Sept. 3, 2001, 11:16:10 PM EDT

Needs a LOT more washing. - (addison) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2001, 12:53:45 AM EDT

Interoperation? - (Decco Dave) - Sept. 4, 2001, 12:28:29 PM EDT

Re: SOAP - MS 'invented' SOAP ? - (dmarker2) - (1) - Sept. 1, 2001, 12:06:52 PM EDT

Pleasing MS - (Decco Dave) - Sept. 3, 2001, 11:29:09 PM EDT

Microsoft did not invent SOAP. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Sept. 1, 2001, 01:00:45 PM EDT

Dave Winer. - (static) - Sept. 3, 2001, 12:27:38 AM EDT

Antitrust law IS a 'market correction' -NT - (imric) - (76) - Aug. 30, 2001, 05:29:26 PM EDT

No, its an artificial outside influence, like ceiling/floors -NT - (addison) - (43) - Aug. 30, 2001, 08:51:54 PM EDT

Wrong. - (imric) - (42) - Aug. 30, 2001, 10:34:33 PM EDT

If you insist on perverting the language, fine. - (addison) - (41) - Aug. 31, 2001, 12:24:14 AM EDT

noting previous antitrust vs. Microsoft - (wharris2) - (1) - Aug. 31, 2001, 04:46:23 AM EDT

Absolute faith in a simplistic concept, 'free market' - (Ashton) - Aug. 31, 2001, 06:18:55 AM EDT

So hostile... - (imric) - (38) - Aug. 31, 2001, 09:58:40 AM EDT

Because its a "concept" that disallows agreement. - (addison) - (37) - Aug. 31, 2001, 10:24:01 AM EDT

Now we know - (Silverlock) - (4) - Aug. 31, 2001, 11:19:48 AM EDT

Re: Now we know - (addison) - (3) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:15:35 PM EDT

Just going by history - (Silverlock) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:58:22 PM EDT

I suggest you repeat History, you've forgotten it. - (addison) - (1) - Aug. 31, 2001, 02:08:36 PM EDT

Sorry dude, you just rub me the wrong way - (Silverlock) - Aug. 31, 2001, 02:29:17 PM EDT

Sure. Whatever. - (imric) - (3) - Aug. 31, 2001, 11:32:36 AM EDT

Re: Sure. Whatever. - (addison) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:12:21 PM EDT

? - (imric) - (1) - Aug. 31, 2001, 03:09:58 PM EDT

You've gotten confused. - (addison) - Aug. 31, 2001, 04:19:13 PM EDT

Shoplifting is a market force . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2001, 12:02:23 PM EDT

WOT - (jbrabeck) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:08:52 PM EDT

Not really. - (addison) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:24:39 PM EDT

Huh??? - (CRConrad) - (4) - Aug. 31, 2001, 07:12:14 PM EDT

Context, CRC, context. - (addison) - (3) - Aug. 31, 2001, 09:43:06 PM EDT

What, you think BeeP is the only economist in here??? - (CRConrad) - (2) - Sept. 2, 2001, 07:09:18 PM EDT

No idea how many there are in here. - (addison) - Sept. 2, 2001, 10:45:15 PM EDT

Econometrics...cool - (bepatient) - Sept. 2, 2001, 11:34:12 PM EDT

Good point... - (hnick) - (17) - Sept. 1, 2001, 10:54:07 AM EDT

Two approaches to "the market" - (Andrew Grygus) - (16) - Sept. 1, 2001, 12:37:56 PM EDT

Re: Two approaches to "the market" - (addison) - (11) - Sept. 1, 2001, 01:14:28 PM EDT

BTW: - (addison) - (10) - Sept. 1, 2001, 01:15:40 PM EDT

Which is why you adhere . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - Sept. 1, 2001, 01:55:31 PM EDT

Which is why I asked... - (addison) - (8) - Sept. 1, 2001, 02:56:56 PM EDT

How "Super Buys" work . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Sept. 1, 2001, 04:25:28 PM EDT

Hey! I think I see a 'graph' in there________:-\ufffd - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 1, 2001, 05:12:49 PM EDT

Adventures in marketing #48734655j - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 1, 2001, 05:56:44 PM EDT

Or, for the 'engineering model' - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 1, 2001, 05:38:24 PM EDT

No problem - it's "Faith Based" -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 1, 2001, 06:52:49 PM EDT

Missed item - (wharris2) - (2) - Sept. 3, 2001, 07:11:36 PM EDT

dollar stores also - (boxley) - Sept. 3, 2001, 09:23:43 PM EDT

No, I got that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 3, 2001, 09:41:16 PM EDT

Boys boys boys.... - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 2, 2001, 01:24:22 PM EDT

Now don't spoil it, BP - (Ashton) - Sept. 2, 2001, 04:30:42 PM EDT

How much is this a semantic argument? - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2001, 04:35:31 PM EDT

Definition... - (bepatient) - Sept. 4, 2001, 05:03:41 PM EDT

hate to let a perfectly degenerating thread go to waste. - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 1, 2001, 09:46:19 PM EDT

Ah.. but the *Biggest* 'marketing force' has to be - (Ashton) - Sept. 2, 2001, 06:41:26 AM EDT

I think there is a definition issue here - (ben_tilly) - (31) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:03:53 PM EDT

Exactly. Thanks. - (addison) - (30) - Aug. 31, 2001, 01:26:31 PM EDT

Fine! - (imric) - (7) - Aug. 31, 2001, 03:01:33 PM EDT

Market theory assumes idealized conditions. - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2001, 03:30:55 PM EDT

Oh, shut the (*#@$ up. - (addison) - (1) - Aug. 31, 2001, 04:21:11 PM EDT

*chuckle* -NT - (imric) - Aug. 31, 2001, 06:59:00 PM EDT

Re: Fine! - (addison) - (3) - Aug. 31, 2001, 04:15:20 PM EDT

Thanks for an illuminating thread, all. - (Ashton) - Aug. 31, 2001, 06:58:46 PM EDT

Aieee! - (imric) - Aug. 31, 2001, 07:53:09 PM EDT

In support of your position - (boxley) - Sept. 1, 2001, 09:56:04 PM EDT

Where do you get this stuff from??? - (CRConrad) - (21) - Aug. 31, 2001, 07:11:55 PM EDT

Many years of econ classes. - (addison) - (17) - Aug. 31, 2001, 09:25:02 PM EDT

How many? And of *what* -- Econ 101, over and over again...? - (CRConrad) - (6) - Sept. 2, 2001, 06:46:18 PM EDT

3. - (addison) - Sept. 2, 2001, 10:59:10 PM EDT

Apologies to Mr. Smith, for having blamed him for - (Ashton) - Sept. 2, 2001, 11:45:04 PM EDT

Natural monopoly - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 2, 2001, 11:50:10 PM EDT

yeah right Auburn :-) - (boxley) - Sept. 3, 2001, 01:08:08 AM EDT

yeah right Auburn :-) - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2001, 01:08:09 AM EDT

Just had to give the credit.... - (bepatient) - Sept. 3, 2001, 09:53:50 AM EDT

Not just time but method - (mhuber) - (9) - Sept. 4, 2001, 01:34:20 PM EDT

Yep...sometimes what is substituted... - (bepatient) - (8) - Sept. 4, 2001, 03:53:36 PM EDT

How so? - (Silverlock) - (7) - Sept. 4, 2001, 04:05:31 PM EDT

Issues... - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 4, 2001, 04:26:50 PM EDT

Good! the nitty-gritty.. finally. - (Ashton) - Sept. 4, 2001, 05:23:42 PM EDT

I figured Billy needs a personal punishment. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Sept. 4, 2001, 05:37:30 PM EDT

Well... - (bepatient) - Sept. 4, 2001, 07:59:40 PM EDT

Then why didn't you describe one? :-) - (static) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2001, 09:23:24 PM EDT

Nope. Then he'd go into politics directly, 'stead of buying' -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 4, 2001, 10:48:04 PM EDT

Re: Issues... - (addison) - Sept. 4, 2001, 10:16:30 PM EDT

Oh it will... - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 31, 2001, 10:18:01 PM EDT

Well... we are still waiting on that last supposition - (Ashton) - Sept. 1, 2001, 12:37:37 AM EDT

AT&T - (wharris2) - Sept. 1, 2001, 03:23:32 AM EDT

Some XP comments. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2001, 10:14:13 AM EDT

Try this: - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 29, 2001, 04:55:36 PM EDT

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