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Post #61,311
by drewk
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11/6/02 8:17:24 AM
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New Don't I wish
However, with this kind of training going on (and it appears to be depressingly common) I don't think anybody here has to fear for their job quite yet...

You seem to assume the people doing hiring/firing would know to ask those questions.
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Post #61,355
by jake123
11/6/02 10:44:53 AM
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New Re: Don't I wish
While it's true that a particular instance might result in employment change... in the medium term the people that actually know the concepts will be more secure. Kinda like how an MCSE holds no water anymore; too many employers have seen the newly minted MCSE come in and fuck everything up bigtime. At this point, MCSE is not perceived as a net benefit... that's why MSFT tried to clean up the program a year or two ago.
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     Hm... sharpen yer virtual pencils - (tseliot) - (49) - Nov. 4, 2002, 05:44:17 PM EST
         Gave my opinion a while back - (drewk) - (41) - Nov. 4, 2002, 06:03:05 PM EST
             Shoot. Missed that whole conversation. - (tseliot) - (11) - Nov. 4, 2002, 07:48:38 PM EST
                 My goal is to automate as much as possible then pass - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2002, 07:58:12 PM EST
                     Do you feel... - (tseliot) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:08:08 AM EST
                         2 of course - (boxley) - Nov. 5, 2002, 10:05:31 AM EST
                 Don't know how to answer that - (drewk) - (7) - Nov. 4, 2002, 08:02:33 PM EST
                     I was interested in the web part. -NT - (tseliot) - (6) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:03:50 AM EST
                         Well ... - (drewk) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2002, 09:10:34 AM EST
                             Re: Well ... - (dshellman) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:39:23 PM EST
                                 I think we've leapfrogged the technology - (drewk) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:53:02 PM EST
                                     Agreed -NT - (dshellman) - Nov. 5, 2002, 01:11:33 PM EST
                                 And this differs from any other pair of technologies..how? - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 06:49:25 PM EST
                                     Riding the waves - (dshellman) - Nov. 6, 2002, 09:40:09 AM EST
             That would seem to indicate that... - (CRConrad) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2002, 03:02:31 AM EST
                 What I mean - (drewk) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2002, 08:50:25 AM EST
                     PHP database code? - (tablizer) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:21:05 AM EST
                         What I mean by "manually" - (drewk) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:43:12 AM EST
                             inter-paradigm translation costs - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:15:33 PM EST
                                 Yes -NT - (drewk) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:23:38 PM EST
             Another take - (wharris2) - (22) - Nov. 5, 2002, 01:58:48 PM EST
                 That's a growing problem at technical schools - (tjsinclair) - (21) - Nov. 5, 2002, 06:47:41 PM EST
                     Reminds me of first computer related course that I took... - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 5, 2002, 07:54:05 PM EST
                     Real Story - (jake123) - (19) - Nov. 5, 2002, 08:04:55 PM EST
                         Don't I wish - (drewk) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2002, 08:17:24 AM EST
                             Re: Don't I wish - (jake123) - Nov. 6, 2002, 10:44:53 AM EST
                         Web Programming and OO? - (Simon_Jester) - (16) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:03:38 AM EST
                             Couple of answers - (drewk) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:27:37 AM EST
                             Javascript is like Python wrt OO - (admin) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:34:03 AM EST
                                 re: Javascript is like Python wrt OO - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:12:28 PM EST
                                     That wasn't my point. -NT - (admin) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:07:39 PM EST
                             Functional programming languages - (ChrisR) - Nov. 7, 2002, 10:07:50 AM EST
                             Why OO techniques in web programming - (jake123) - (10) - Nov. 7, 2002, 12:33:32 PM EST
                                 why does that need OO? - (tablizer) - (9) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:38:12 PM EST
                                     It doesn't. It just makes it a lot easier. - (jake123) - (8) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:59:09 PM EST
                                         Of course I don't believe you - (tablizer) - (7) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:22:32 PM EST
                                             Whatever you say, sunshine. -NT - (jake123) - (6) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:25:22 PM EST
                                                 I was hoping for a technical comparison, not flame-bait -NT - (tablizer) - (5) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:34:40 PM EST
                                                     Re: I was hoping for a technical comparison, not flame-bait - (jake123) - (4) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:35:37 PM EST
                                                         Start a new thread if you two get into it :-) - (admin) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:43:08 PM EST
                                                             Should we put it in the Flame Quarentine section? -NT - (tablizer) - Nov. 7, 2002, 04:21:03 PM EST
                                                         just recursion there - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:12:04 PM EST
                                                             Recursion not the point; it's object references (new thread) - (jake123) - Nov. 8, 2002, 12:13:49 PM EST
         Low-level programming - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2002, 11:31:07 AM EST
             I don't quite agree. - (static) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 07:52:29 PM EST
                 I was trying to say the same thing. -NT - (Arkadiy) - Nov. 6, 2002, 09:36:18 AM EST
         I don't personally believe in end user programming. - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:40:15 AM EDT
             human factors bust automation goals - (tablizer) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:26:20 AM EST
                 Re: human factors bust automation goals - (wharris2) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:39:10 PM EST
                     re: Peer Kudos - (tablizer) - Nov. 7, 2002, 05:03:21 PM EST

You should be skinned and fed to tassies for intercoursing with those devils.
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