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Post #61,082 by boxley 11/4/02 7:58:12 PM Reply	My goal is to automate as much as possible then pass as many tasks to lesser paid knowledge folks, power users etc and move on. This is what managements mantra is and I agree with it, However how many sysadmins here can trace a circuit board and make needed repairs. There are some but most of the new techs cannot. That is because the tools in the hardware area have been automated to the extent that hardware is yank and replace. Software tools will reach that goal sometime but until then there is work to be had. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "Money for jobs? No first you get the job, then you get the money" Raimondo
Post #61,114 by tseliot 11/5/02 12:08:08 AM Reply	Do you feel... 1. You keep "working yourself out of a job"? and/or 2. You're going to eventually work yourself out of a career? I think lots of current IT workers see #1 but not #2. I wonder how many will hit #2 soon and be surprised by it; i.e. they don't see ossification in their own skill set. If not because of technology passing me by, I can at least see working myself out of a career out of sheer boredom. ;) Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #61,147 by boxley 11/5/02 10:05:31 AM Reply	2 of course except for the boffins that design the new stuff and 3rd line Cust Supp all of the rest will be drones managers and one headsup consultant on call I will be that consultant until I get bored. thanx bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "Money for jobs? No first you get the job, then you get the money" Raimondo

Hm... sharpen yer virtual pencils - (tseliot) - (49) - Nov. 4, 2002, 05:44:17 PM EST

Gave my opinion a while back - (drewk) - (41) - Nov. 4, 2002, 06:03:05 PM EST

Shoot. Missed that whole conversation. - (tseliot) - (11) - Nov. 4, 2002, 07:48:38 PM EST

My goal is to automate as much as possible then pass - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2002, 07:58:12 PM EST

Do you feel... - (tseliot) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:08:08 AM EST

2 of course - (boxley) - Nov. 5, 2002, 10:05:31 AM EST

Don't know how to answer that - (drewk) - (7) - Nov. 4, 2002, 08:02:33 PM EST

I was interested in the web part. -NT - (tseliot) - (6) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:03:50 AM EST

Well ... - (drewk) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2002, 09:10:34 AM EST

Re: Well ... - (dshellman) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:39:23 PM EST

I think we've leapfrogged the technology - (drewk) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 12:53:02 PM EST

Agreed -NT - (dshellman) - Nov. 5, 2002, 01:11:33 PM EST

And this differs from any other pair of technologies..how? - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 06:49:25 PM EST

Riding the waves - (dshellman) - Nov. 6, 2002, 09:40:09 AM EST

That would seem to indicate that... - (CRConrad) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2002, 03:02:31 AM EST

What I mean - (drewk) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2002, 08:50:25 AM EST

PHP database code? - (tablizer) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:21:05 AM EST

What I mean by "manually" - (drewk) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:43:12 AM EST

inter-paradigm translation costs - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:15:33 PM EST

Yes -NT - (drewk) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:23:38 PM EST

Another take - (wharris2) - (22) - Nov. 5, 2002, 01:58:48 PM EST

That's a growing problem at technical schools - (tjsinclair) - (21) - Nov. 5, 2002, 06:47:41 PM EST

Reminds me of first computer related course that I took... - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 5, 2002, 07:54:05 PM EST

Real Story - (jake123) - (19) - Nov. 5, 2002, 08:04:55 PM EST

Don't I wish - (drewk) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2002, 08:17:24 AM EST

Re: Don't I wish - (jake123) - Nov. 6, 2002, 10:44:53 AM EST

Web Programming and OO? - (Simon_Jester) - (16) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:03:38 AM EST

Couple of answers - (drewk) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:27:37 AM EST

Javascript is like Python wrt OO - (admin) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:34:03 AM EST

re: Javascript is like Python wrt OO - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:12:28 PM EST

That wasn't my point. -NT - (admin) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:07:39 PM EST

Functional programming languages - (ChrisR) - Nov. 7, 2002, 10:07:50 AM EST

Why OO techniques in web programming - (jake123) - (10) - Nov. 7, 2002, 12:33:32 PM EST

why does that need OO? - (tablizer) - (9) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:38:12 PM EST

It doesn't. It just makes it a lot easier. - (jake123) - (8) - Nov. 7, 2002, 01:59:09 PM EST

Of course I don't believe you - (tablizer) - (7) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:22:32 PM EST

Whatever you say, sunshine. -NT - (jake123) - (6) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:25:22 PM EST

I was hoping for a technical comparison, not flame-bait -NT - (tablizer) - (5) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:34:40 PM EST

Re: I was hoping for a technical comparison, not flame-bait - (jake123) - (4) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:35:37 PM EST

Start a new thread if you two get into it :-) - (admin) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:43:08 PM EST

Should we put it in the Flame Quarentine section? -NT - (tablizer) - Nov. 7, 2002, 04:21:03 PM EST

just recursion there - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 09:12:04 PM EST

Recursion not the point; it's object references (new thread) - (jake123) - Nov. 8, 2002, 12:13:49 PM EST

Low-level programming - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2002, 11:31:07 AM EST

I don't quite agree. - (static) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2002, 07:52:29 PM EST

I was trying to say the same thing. -NT - (Arkadiy) - Nov. 6, 2002, 09:36:18 AM EST

I don't personally believe in end user programming. - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:40:15 AM EDT

human factors bust automation goals - (tablizer) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2002, 02:26:20 AM EST

Re: human factors bust automation goals - (wharris2) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2002, 03:39:10 PM EST

re: Peer Kudos - (tablizer) - Nov. 7, 2002, 05:03:21 PM EST

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