Prince Philip checks out

Post #438,888 by rcareaga 4/9/21 11:17:25 AM 4/9/21 11:17:25 AM Reply	Prince Philip checks out From the Guardian obit: One of his nicknames was “Phil the Greek”, based on his birth on Corfu into Greece’s royal family, yet he had no Greek blood. He was a sprig of the Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburgs, the peripatetic and frequently exiled Danish royal family that the Greeks imported after winning independence from Turkey in the 1820s. His ancestry lay in the interconnected 19th-century royal families of Europe. His paternal grandfather was Danish, his grandmother Russian: the couple’s seven children spoke in Greek to each other but in English to their parents, whose own private conversations were in German. —“peripatetic and frequently exiled.” I do love the Brits. cordially,
Post #438,901 by static 4/10/21 5:26:09 AM 4/10/21 5:26:09 AM Reply	Some good articles are appearing about him. Like this one from the BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50589065 He outlived nearly everyone who knew him and might explain him. And so we have been left with a two-dimensional portrait of the duke; salt-tongued and short-tempered, a man who told off-colour jokes and made politically incorrect remarks, an eccentric great-uncle who'd been around forever and towards whom most people felt affection - but who rather too often embarrassed himself and others in company.
Post #438,903 by drook 4/10/21 10:48:53 AM 4/10/21 10:49:16 AM Reply	I'd never heard that about him But then I barely heard anything about him. -- Drew Edited by drook April 10, 2021, 10:49:16 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #438,904 by Another Scott 4/10/21 1:02:37 PM 4/10/21 1:02:37 PM Reply	Twitter dick_nixon has some tidbits, Obama had some comments. https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1380489812751351809 https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1380523809376194563 https://twitter.com/Tim_A_Roberts/status/1380630193128280069/photo/1 https://twitter.com/Tim_A_Roberts/status/1380630193128280069/photo/2 FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #438,910 by a6l6e6x 4/11/21 9:53:08 PM 4/11/21 9:53:08 PM Reply	You do know Nixon died in 1994, well before Twitter? :) Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #438,913 by Another Scott 4/11/21 11:15:54 PM 4/11/21 11:15:54 PM Reply	Unpossible!! https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/418244279677366272 Richard M. Nixon @dick_nixon Dec 31, 2013 I've said it before: Jack is dead, Bobby is dead, Teddy is dead, Lyndon is dead, poor damn dumb Reagan is dead. But I'm still here. dick_nixon is Justin Sherwin. He loves baseball, politics done right, and hates Marco Rubio with the heat of 1000 suns. He's an interesting read, even though he's more than a few times been wrong about politics. (E.g. he thought Kamala was a terrible choice for VP.) https://www.vox.com/2015/10/8/9464035/dick-nixon-first-person The joke was easy — perhaps too easy. But it made me wonder how Nixon would operate today. At age 13, Richard Nixon’s grandmother encouraged him to leave his "footprints on the sands of time," and I imagined him making a final "big play" for respect. He’d fight for difficult, forward-thinking realism over the ideological purity that dominates our politics. As he did in the Checkers speech, following his defeat in 1962 and his pardon by President Ford, Nixon wouldn’t allow himself to be turned into a byword for criminality and disgrace. In his mind he was a great man, and they never backed down from a fight. I understood that Nixon couldn't be frozen in the world of the tapes — he belonged "in the arena." And that made him a natural for Twitter. Words, tics, and mannerisms are easy to imitate. Thinking isn't. My goal was to get into Nixon's head, let him comment on the political world he created and plot the way forward. I had to bring him back. So I dug into books, transcripts, and interviews, looking for what drew America to him. Cheers, Scott.
Post #438,909 by boxley 4/11/21 9:13:19 PM 4/11/21 9:13:19 PM Reply	oh yeah he was so well known for it they faked a cameo of him in the orginal brit sandford son movie "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #438,914 by pwhysall 4/12/21 2:20:11 AM 4/12/21 2:20:11 AM Reply	You'd never know, from looking at the UK news media
Post #438,915 by drook 4/12/21 12:29:44 PM 4/12/21 12:29:44 PM Reply	I thought they were obsessed with the royals? Or is it only the young, pretty ones they care about? -- Drew
Post #438,926 by pwhysall 4/13/21 1:57:42 AM 4/13/21 1:57:42 AM Reply	Not only do Americans not get irony, they apparently can't do sarcasm, either.
Post #438,927 by drook 4/13/21 8:15:41 AM 4/13/21 8:15:41 AM Reply	Somewhat obvious in retrospect, I suppose -- Drew
Post #438,931 by malraux 4/13/21 10:28:01 AM 4/13/21 10:28:01 AM Reply	And the public doesn't seem bovvered by it either https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/13/prince-philip-death-bbc-complaints/ The BBC received a record-breaking number of complaints following its extensive coverage of Prince Philip’s death, with more than 110,000 people contacting the broadcaster to grumble over changes to scheduled programming and “excessive” reporting on his life and legacy. Give us more royals, they cried! Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #438,939 by pwhysall 4/14/21 12:21:09 PM 4/14/21 12:21:09 PM Reply	Re: And the public doesn't seem bovvered by it either The Beeb cancelled 'enders and Bake Off, in favour of tedious "famous rich old man, who you already knew everything about, is dead at the tragically young age of only 99 years old, so here's some shitty Coldplay or some shit" What did they think was going to happen?
Post #438,940 by drook 4/14/21 1:33:37 PM 4/14/21 1:33:37 PM Reply	When the network already has the eulogy package produced and queued up ... I think it's safe to say that's "news" about as much as "sun rose in the east". -- Drew
Post #438,941 by Another Scott 4/14/21 3:11:07 PM 4/14/21 3:11:07 PM Reply	Tony Jay on Balloon-Juice says... The BBC leadership has been Foxified/Murdoched (leadership was recruited from Murdoch's properties), so they like nothing better than to take the eye off BoJo's failures, disasters, etc. What better way than to spend tens of hours reviewing the glory of old Brittania?? Cheers, Scott.
Post #439,125 by CRConrad 5/18/21 8:02:59 AM 5/18/21 8:02:59 AM Reply	Fucking xenophobic, those Greeks -- or is it just the Guardian's writers? ...he had no Greek blood. He was a sprig of the Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburgs, the peripatetic and frequently exiled Danish royal family that the Greeks imported after winning independence from Turkey in the 1820s. Sooo... two centuries, and their "blood" still doesn't count as Greek? What do you have to do to assimilate there; get a time machine and go back and make your ancestors immigrate during the Trojan war? Or will even that not suffice? -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #439,130 by drook 5/18/21 9:56:55 AM 5/18/21 9:56:55 AM Reply	Well ... I don't know Phillip's ancestry, but when England controlled India there were multiple generations born and died in India, never saw England with their own eyes, who still called themselves English. They intentionally didn't assimilate. Without knowing the history of Greece more than I do, I can't discount the possibility that they did the same thing there. -- Drew
Post #439,135 by scoenye 5/18/21 10:09:57 PM 5/18/21 10:09:57 PM Reply	The tenure was a bit short His grandfather was the Danish import, married to a Russian. His father was born in Greece but the lot ended up in exile first in Switzerland, and later for a 2nd time in France.

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