Might not be a suicide pact, but…

Post #423,826 by rcareaga 5/22/18 6:14:04 PM 5/22/18 6:14:04 PM Reply	Might not be a suicide pact, but… could it be a straitjacket? Certainly the assumption that the “norms” would be preserved has been weaponized and turned against us. If for whatever reason—insufficient turnout, social media manipulation, gerrymandering, voter suppression, actual hacking of registration/tallying servers, or Russian ratfucking NSPF—things go sideways in November, “all the rest will not* fall into place.” Indeed, although I respect your sunny spirits generally, I do not believe that the rest will ever fall back into place. The election of 2016 has locked a door behind us. We’re never getting “back on the road.” Of the roads before us, some will lead to better or worse destinations than others, but none will get us to where we might have imagined two years ago. cordially, *When I first joined the International Division at FCT&D back in the day, this country used a tariff code at odds with that of the rest of the world, finally giving this up in the late eighties. One of the provisions within various categories was “NSPF”—“Not Specially Provided For.” It’s long gone from tariff nomenclature, but it has endured as a major meme in my own personal filing system.
Post #423,827 by dmcarls 5/22/18 7:26:15 PM 5/22/18 7:26:15 PM Reply	Well, you're right about that >> Of the roads before us, some will lead to better or worse destinations than others.. "...If he was to be prosecuted while in office, so too would every president who follows..." https://blog.simplejustice.us/2018/05/22/katyals-not-too-practical-indictment/
Post #423,828 by rcareaga 5/22/18 8:16:33 PM 5/22/18 8:16:33 PM Reply	I take the argument seriously A future president could be indicted by his political enemies for jaywalking. Or for a blowjob. Such a prosecution would be, has been, frivolous. But what about murder? What about conspiring with multiple foreign powers to subvert and distort popular democracy? How can we address this without, indeed, making subsequent officeholders vulnerable to merely politically-motivated indictments? We need a rational system that establishes a threshold that oral sex does not cross and treason does. How that’s done, I cannot tell you. cordially,
Post #423,830 by boxley 5/22/18 9:52:32 PM 5/22/18 9:52:32 PM Reply	I actually think you might take it seriously But what about murder? What about conspiring with multiple foreign powers to subvert and distort popular democracy? on your example, walking out of the whitehouse shooting a small child in front of the cameras (assuming that no Secret Service Agent wouldn't take it away from him, likely in my opinion.) Soon to be president Pence would invoke the incapacity clause and a slam dunk would ensue. Could the president be indicted in a court of law for treason? Yes if the evidence was very clear, very convincing and without exculpatory evidence, since such a trial would incapacitate the president soon to be president pence would again swiftly invoke the incapacity clause. However, it has to be more than supposition, circumstantial evidence and hearsay. An example was the dead brutch hillary email server. President Obama swore that the first he had heard of it was on the news but he was emailing her on the dam thing. Now we all know that according to the fbi she was very careless having classified information on it but didnt really mean it and well she is a democrat after all. Ok, so other people lose their jobs, go to jail for much lesser offenses but ok, thats the way it works in that world. Now for the drumpster. Lots of noise, the feebs trying to pull an abscam on the peripheral players very early in the election cycle, lots of wheezing and gasping from the media, lots of haruphing and finger pointing by fox news but I dont see an indictment there yet. Certainly not enough to put a future president in jeopardy because 49% of the people dont like them. My 2 cents "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,831 by rcareaga 5/22/18 10:08:01 PM 5/22/18 10:08:01 PM Reply	Who the fuck are you, and what have you done w/boxley??
Post #423,834 by Ashton 5/22/18 11:14:46 PM 5/22/18 11:14:46 PM Reply	Indeed The Box wears multi-coloured threads, but do we not mainly pine for more frequent appearance, as here, in his best Livery? aka ~~Hyde/Jekyll~~ The Box/a solid, machined cube of W? (er, Tungsten, that is.)
Post #423,832 by drook 5/22/18 10:32:54 PM 5/22/18 10:32:54 PM Reply	Nit ... but he was emailing her on the dam thing ... Do you generally have any fucking clue what server someone is receiving your email on? -- Drew
Post #423,835 by Ashton 5/22/18 11:19:42 PM 5/22/18 11:19:42 PM Reply	Thanks for stating that Obvious-ity which moi hadn't copped-to. Either. {sigh}
Post #423,836 by boxley 5/22/18 11:52:49 PM 5/22/18 11:52:49 PM Reply	yes brobox@hq.dhs.gov goes to the emaii server at work box@netscrape.net does not go to an gummint email server "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,911 by crazy 5/25/18 9:01:01 AM 5/25/18 9:01:01 AM Reply	Wrong question Does a typical user know? And if course the answer is no.
Post #423,930 by boxley 5/25/18 7:06:16 PM 5/25/18 7:06:16 PM Reply	both of the users pres and sec state were specifically told to check that and why "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,935 by hnick 5/26/18 9:36:28 AM 5/26/18 9:36:28 AM Reply	Do either have the attention span of a may fly? "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)

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