Post #411,297
6/23/16 10:06:36 PM
6/23/16 10:06:58 PM
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Watching Brexit votes roll in.
Started off with the Leaves ahead, but has crossed back and forth 3 times so far.
Peter's neck of the woods - Redcar & Cleveland has Leaves at 66.2% vs Remains 33,8%. Must be the "industrial" part of the country. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
Edited by a6l6e6x
June 23, 2016, 10:06:58 PM EDT
Watching Brexit votes role in.
Started off with the Leaves ahead, but has crossed back and forth 3 times so far.
Peter's neck of the woods - Redcar & Cleveland has Leaves at 66.2% vs Remains 33,8%. Must be the "industrial" part of the country. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,299
6/23/16 10:38:24 PM
6/23/16 10:38:24 PM
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It's depressing as hell.
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Post #411,300
6/23/16 10:48:16 PM
6/23/16 10:48:16 PM
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It certainly doesn't look good at the moment.
But suppose "Leave" wins. What then?
I understand that 2 years of negotiations are needed to make it official.
I also understand that PM Cameron will likely resign or be forced out. Would it also mean early elections? Could a new government come in and ask for a do-over once the pound falls 20% tomorrow?
It seems like if a government is really determined, they can keep calling referendums until they get the result they want (look at Erdogan in Turkey).
Lots and lots of questions...
Here's hoping the "Stay" side rallies.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #411,303
6/23/16 11:31:15 PM
6/23/16 11:31:15 PM
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GBP already reporting at -11% against USD. 277/382 reporting, 51.77% leave.
-Mike
@MikeVitale42
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #411,304
6/23/16 11:39:42 PM
6/23/16 11:39:42 PM
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ITV News calls Leave the winner.
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,306
6/23/16 11:49:58 PM
6/23/16 11:49:58 PM
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BBC, too.
-Mike
@MikeVitale42
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #411,308
6/24/16 12:06:22 AM
6/24/16 12:06:22 AM
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Shows you what the 28+% of non-voters allowed to happen.
The Leave voters were more fired up and did not let the heavy rains keep them home. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,305
6/23/16 11:49:11 PM
6/23/16 11:49:11 PM
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According to CNBC, Dow will drop 550 points.
Time to "back up the truck" tomorrow! Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,309
6/24/16 12:07:27 AM
6/24/16 12:07:27 AM
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Supposedly the Referendum isn't binding on Parliament anyway, sooo... ?
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Post #411,310
6/24/16 12:32:56 AM
6/24/16 12:32:56 AM
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This isn't Rubio declaring he's done with the Senate.
Politics is a serious thing.
Cameron will resign.
Economic recession will come.
Scotland overwhelmingly in the Remain block, will revisit independence.
Northern Ireland, also the Remain block, will look at re-unification with Ireland.
But, there's always Wales.
And Peter will be able to say "I told you so!" Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,314
6/24/16 8:52:27 AM
6/24/16 8:52:27 AM
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Ah, and take a look at Gibraltar.
Just about 96% voted to STAY.
Spain is already asking for joint custody the Rock. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,301
6/23/16 11:01:18 PM
6/23/16 11:01:18 PM
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You're supposed to be asleep!
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,347
6/24/16 4:31:09 PM
6/24/16 4:32:01 PM
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It seems your idiots are as stupid as our idiots
Edited by crazy
June 24, 2016, 04:32:01 PM EDT
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Post #411,311
6/24/16 4:57:57 AM
6/24/16 4:57:57 AM
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This is a disaster.
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Post #411,312
6/24/16 6:48:11 AM
6/24/16 6:48:11 AM
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I'm surprised they actually did it. :-( Hang on. It looks to be rocky for a while.
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Post #411,313
6/24/16 8:26:06 AM
6/24/16 8:26:06 AM
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NPR this morning.
Interviewed (didn't catch names or titles) an IN and an OUT supporter. The only thing they agreed on was this was a sort of "peasants revolt" at globalization akin to the draw shared among Trump and Bernie supporters here. I don't know if that's overstating it or not because I'm not up to date on the political environment in the UK. But if that's truly what it was, then this could be the first shot across the bow of the Free-Trade Globalization junket. Could Trump's election be the next?
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Post #411,316
6/24/16 9:04:33 AM
6/24/16 9:04:33 AM
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Yep, a not so united Kingdom!
But, this morning Bernie said he would vote for Hillary in November. Anything to stop Trump. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,317
6/24/16 9:05:27 AM
6/24/16 9:05:27 AM
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That's how all the media have been playing it the last couple of days
It makes for a great narrative, which as much as anything else makes me question it.
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Post #411,320
6/24/16 9:26:58 AM
6/24/16 9:26:58 AM
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I'm right there with you.
I hope it's that and not xenophobic racism. Crap like the below makes me wonder, though. 
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Post #411,319
6/24/16 9:21:16 AM
6/24/16 9:21:16 AM
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Could be, what will the price of a pint be after the break?
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
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Post #411,326
6/24/16 10:25:33 AM
6/24/16 10:25:33 AM
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Keep the government's hand off our EU subsidies!
Also, some git in the comments section suggests that we enroll Old Blighty in NAFTA. I say, go for outright annexation and call it "Airstrip One."
cordially,
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Post #411,327
6/24/16 10:40:32 AM
6/24/16 10:40:32 AM
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Re: Keep the government's hand off our EU subsidies!
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Post #411,328
6/24/16 10:42:51 AM
6/24/16 10:42:51 AM
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Ugh.
Good news, though: never a better time to go to the UK for a visit. :-P Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #411,329
6/24/16 10:59:48 AM
6/24/16 10:59:48 AM
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My daughter and granddaughter are touring the UK in a couple weeks.
It's a Jr. High band trip.
Unfortunately, my daughter converted some dollars to pounds with a friend who came back from the UK with excess currency. She thought she was saving on exchange fees! Whoops! Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #411,335
6/24/16 1:53:24 PM
6/24/16 1:53:24 PM
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"voting is not theoretical"
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #411,337
6/24/16 2:25:12 PM
6/24/16 2:25:12 PM
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Okay, but what happens if it turns out to benefit them?
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Post #411,338
6/24/16 2:57:54 PM
6/24/16 2:57:54 PM
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As is not voting when you could have.
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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