Hmmm.. then what chimera are we using to replace it?

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Post #3,518 by Ashton 8/1/01 6:49:18 PM Reply	Hmmm.. then what chimera are we using to replace it?
Post #3,520 by Fearless Freep 8/1/01 6:55:47 PM Reply	Nothing much In the last eight to ten years, the military has been trying to say "this is our job, let us do it". However politicians have been using the military for a lot of little things that the military wasn't well set up to do like humanitarian relief, local policing, show of force exercises, etc... stuff the military didn't really want to do that sapped it's operating proficiency. That's why our military is in such a shambles today. Basically, Rumsfield has said that they are going to abandon the two theatre war policy and focus on being better equipped for the smaller mission sets Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #3,585 by Ashton 8/2/01 4:53:46 AM Reply	That sounds relatively sane. But why so expensive still? Assuming BP's numbers in ballpark: I still read 4/5 of avge cold war GNP% - in 2000. I fail to understand the nature of this 'threat' which requires expenditures that close to cold war rate. A.
Post #3,612 by Fearless Freep 8/2/01 11:09:04 AM Reply	Simple, operational deployment costs more.... ...the training and preparataion. Actually deploying troops to Bosnia, etc,...is more expensive than merely preparing to do the same. Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #3,643 by Ashton 8/2/01 4:39:42 PM Reply	LRPD below explains! 'We have a moral imperative.'

Shrub is singlehandedly undoing years of foriegn policy work - (inthane-chan) - (67) - July 26, 2001, 12:21:25 AM EDT

just spent a few hours revewing Potsdam - (boxley) - July 26, 2001, 03:03:00 AM EDT

Tom Tomorrow feels our pain - (Ashton) - (6) - July 26, 2001, 08:06:44 AM EDT

sumbitch outa be arrested for spying :) -NT - (boxley) - July 26, 2001, 10:32:41 AM EDT

On global warming - (drewk) - (4) - July 27, 2001, 09:07:33 AM EDT

I'd read that too - (SpiceWare) - (3) - July 27, 2001, 09:19:38 AM EDT

I'm looking for a reference - (drewk) - (2) - July 27, 2001, 09:38:34 AM EDT

Here's a good quote from the report - (drewk) - (1) - July 27, 2001, 09:48:55 AM EDT

There's More - (Steve Lowe) - July 27, 2001, 11:16:41 AM EDT

I dunno - (SpiceWare) - (12) - July 26, 2001, 11:13:46 AM EDT

I could understand it if... - (inthane-chan) - (3) - July 26, 2001, 11:38:13 AM EDT

Not quite - (Fearless Freep) - (2) - July 26, 2001, 11:47:16 AM EDT

In other words... - (jb4) - (1) - July 30, 2001, 09:32:50 AM EDT

Of course - (Fearless Freep) - July 30, 2001, 11:25:07 AM EDT

Exactly why... - (Fearless Freep) - July 26, 2001, 11:44:06 AM EDT

NMD == waste of money. - (pwhysall) - (6) - July 27, 2001, 02:39:21 AM EDT

That and history has shown that defensive arms races - (Simon_Jester) - July 27, 2001, 08:36:08 AM EDT

What would you have said in the 30s? 50s? - (addison) - (4) - July 27, 2001, 10:58:00 AM EDT

Question... - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - July 30, 2001, 03:26:54 PM EDT

Re: Question... - (addison) - (2) - July 30, 2001, 03:57:04 PM EDT

The same Patriot missile system used in Desert Storm? - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - July 30, 2001, 07:01:55 PM EDT

The very same. - (addison) - July 30, 2001, 07:23:35 PM EDT

Interesting points - (Fearless Freep) - July 26, 2001, 11:52:14 AM EDT

Is that bad? - (addison) - July 27, 2001, 11:15:17 AM EDT

Re: Shrub is singlehandedly undoing years of foriegn policy - (bepatient) - (43) - July 28, 2001, 11:31:16 AM EDT

OK.. but if the cold war is over: - (Ashton) - (42) - July 29, 2001, 05:01:07 PM EDT

Re: OK.. but if the cold war is over: - (addison) - (20) - July 29, 2001, 05:09:08 PM EDT

Priorities. - (Ashton) - (19) - July 29, 2001, 05:31:13 PM EDT

Support Faith Based Missle Defense Systems. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (18) - July 30, 2001, 01:35:05 PM EDT

Believe that's called, 'karma'___________________:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - July 30, 2001, 07:10:25 PM EDT

That's what we have now. - (addison) - (16) - July 30, 2001, 07:24:33 PM EDT

Exactly How Hard Do you think it is... - (mmoffitt) - (15) - Aug. 1, 2001, 05:56:18 PM EDT

Thanks, Mike - wouldn't have found that one. LRPD below: - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2001, 06:29:31 PM EDT

Eerier and eerier. LRPD speaks again: - (Ashton) - Aug. 1, 2001, 06:35:05 PM EDT

Only one question - (wharris2) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2001, 07:03:57 PM EDT

Also.. - (Fearless Freep) - Aug. 1, 2001, 09:57:56 PM EDT

Pretty hard. - (addison) - (10) - Aug. 1, 2001, 09:05:18 PM EDT

I more interesting in why this was mentioned after the test. - (Simon_Jester) - (9) - Aug. 2, 2001, 12:07:27 AM EDT

Re: I more interesting in why this was mentioned after the t - (addison) - (8) - Aug. 2, 2001, 12:13:18 AM EDT

Actually it *IS* the same thing. - (Simon_Jester) - (7) - Aug. 2, 2001, 09:08:50 AM EDT

What I read... - (admin) - (6) - Aug. 2, 2001, 11:07:09 AM EDT

Scott, it's certainly possible. - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Aug. 2, 2001, 01:20:43 PM EDT

No, it shouldn't. - (addison) - (4) - Aug. 2, 2001, 03:03:16 PM EDT

Certainly. - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Aug. 2, 2001, 03:48:16 PM EDT

Pot, Kettle, and Black. - (addison) - (2) - Aug. 2, 2001, 04:48:47 PM EDT

Nope. Sorry. Not the same at all. - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2001, 07:12:51 PM EDT

Fine. -NT - (addison) - Aug. 2, 2001, 07:30:19 PM EDT

ok now... - (bepatient) - (20) - July 31, 2001, 08:38:45 AM EDT

Full agreement. - (a6l6e6x) - July 31, 2001, 02:27:39 PM EDT

Ya got me there, partly. Smartass. - (Ashton) - (18) - Aug. 1, 2001, 02:39:36 AM EDT

Re: Ya got me there, partly. Smartass. - (bepatient) - (9) - Aug. 1, 2001, 07:32:36 AM EDT

So then: a suitable metric for er - (Ashton) - (8) - Aug. 1, 2001, 06:43:02 PM EDT

I'm not sure what your point is. - (bepatient) - (7) - Aug. 1, 2001, 09:57:49 PM EDT

The need for defense spending will end... - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 1, 2001, 10:14:20 PM EDT

Cold war 5.0 avge; 2000 3.9 = 20% reduction - (Ashton) - (5) - Aug. 2, 2001, 04:47:48 AM EDT

Avg vs High vs Trend - (bepatient) - (4) - Aug. 2, 2001, 10:14:53 AM EDT

Nice chart. - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 2, 2001, 04:37:52 PM EDT

Well... - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2001, 07:53:08 PM EDT

These points are of course, debatable. Simply they aren't - (Ashton) - Aug. 3, 2001, 05:16:48 AM EDT

what price victory or defeat? - (boxley) - Aug. 2, 2001, 08:42:43 PM EDT

Not any more - (Fearless Freep) - (5) - Aug. 1, 2001, 03:20:32 PM EDT

Hmmm.. then what chimera are we using to replace it? -NT - (Ashton) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2001, 06:49:18 PM EDT

Nothing much - (Fearless Freep) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2001, 06:55:47 PM EDT

That sounds relatively sane. But why so expensive still? - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 2, 2001, 04:53:46 AM EDT

Simple, operational deployment costs more.... - (Fearless Freep) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2001, 11:09:04 AM EDT

LRPD below explains! 'We have a moral imperative.' -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 2, 2001, 04:39:42 PM EDT

Gotta wory 'bout France, ya know... *snicker* -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2001, 01:51:26 PM EDT

More than you know ;) - (bepatient) - Aug. 2, 2001, 07:45:26 PM EDT

Dude, down the hall and to the left. That’s who you want.
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