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Post #295,390
by CRConrad
10/30/07 11:45:24 AM
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New Do you *ever* use "etc", or do you think "et al" means...
...*exactly the same* as "etc" used to mean?


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Post #295,392
by imqwerky
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10/30/07 11:56:55 AM
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New Etc=things, et al=people....HTH :-)
Smile,
Amy
Post #295,430
by CRConrad
10/31/07 7:38:52 AM
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New HT... Whom, exactly, do you think you're H'ing?
Post #295,436
by imqwerky
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10/31/07 8:36:08 AM
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New I know, I know...
meant to go up one notch and forgot.

Now the roasting will be on me. (re: the other thread)
Smile,
Amy
Post #295,398
by boxley
10/30/07 1:11:05 PM
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New etc is where you keep the configurations for bin HTH
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Post #295,424
by static
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10/31/07 12:25:06 AM
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New Not really sure, now that I think about it.
I know 'et al' and 'etc' are different, though only marginally. I don't know why I started using it, but I seem to use 'et al.' to mean "and others", which is literally correct, but grammatically incorrect when meaning things not people. I had been taught that 'etc.' meant "and so on" which is correct in modern usage, but not literally correct. To my thinking, the difference between the two is mostly the former implies a fixed (but not necessarily known) list, whilst the latter implies an open-ended list.

Perhaps it's because 'etc' is so overused - finding something else when the overuse annoys me is one of my traits.

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Post #295,484
by GBert
11/1/07 11:54:03 AM
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New Cetera="everything else", alia="other things"
Cetera="everything else", alia="other things"

Easy to tell apart in these other idomatic expressions:

"Ceteris paribus" means "everything else being equal"

"Inter alia" means "Among other things"


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     so much for biofuels - (boxley) - (25) - Oct. 28, 2007, 09:20:57 PM EDT
         The free market will provide. - (warmachine) - (5) - Oct. 29, 2007, 08:57:55 AM EDT
             You're right - (imqwerky) - (4) - Oct. 29, 2007, 09:45:18 AM EDT
                 It's worse than that... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Oct. 29, 2007, 11:09:43 AM EDT
                     I would say, "Unbelievable" - (imqwerky) - (2) - Oct. 29, 2007, 02:37:31 PM EDT
                         "Nothing that doesn't "? So then it IS "Unbelievable"...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:41:40 AM EDT
                             oops - (imqwerky) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:49:38 AM EDT
         Rejoice! The creation of the Third World middle class! - (warmachine) - (4) - Oct. 29, 2007, 07:56:12 PM EDT
             the landowners will be quickly dispossesed by the diktat -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 29, 2007, 08:49:14 PM EDT
                 Ever the Optimist, Aren't we? :-)P -NT - (imqwerky) - Oct. 29, 2007, 08:53:54 PM EDT
                 I'll go with that - (warmachine) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2007, 09:56:27 AM EDT
                     zimbabwe fine example -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 30, 2007, 10:06:27 AM EDT
         Well aren't they silly. - (static) - (13) - Oct. 30, 2007, 06:21:38 AM EDT
             Here's a good scenario - (imqwerky) - Oct. 30, 2007, 07:29:49 AM EDT
             hemp being much more multiuse -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 30, 2007, 07:31:14 AM EDT
             Still means less overpriced food - (warmachine) - Oct. 30, 2007, 09:43:41 AM EDT
             The biofuel industry chose corn because . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Oct. 30, 2007, 10:23:34 AM EDT
                 Besides... - (folkert) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2007, 10:46:04 AM EDT
                     That 7% may be low . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:11:50 AM EDT
             Do you *ever* use "etc", or do you think "et al" means... - (CRConrad) - (6) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:45:24 AM EDT
                 Etc=things, et al=people....HTH :-) -NT - (imqwerky) - (2) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:56:55 AM EDT
                     HT... Whom, exactly, do you think you're H'ing? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 31, 2007, 07:38:52 AM EDT
                         I know, I know... - (imqwerky) - Oct. 31, 2007, 08:36:08 AM EDT
                 etc is where you keep the configurations for bin HTH -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 30, 2007, 01:11:05 PM EDT
                 Not really sure, now that I think about it. - (static) - (1) - Oct. 31, 2007, 12:25:06 AM EDT
                     Cetera="everything else", alia="other things" - (GBert) - Nov. 1, 2007, 11:54:03 AM EDT

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