The biofuel industry chose corn because . . .

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Post #295,383 by Andrew Grygus 10/30/07 10:23:34 AM Reply	The biofuel industry chose corn because . . . . . they could combine lobbying pressure with the powerful grain lobby to put irresistable pressure on congress critters. This biofuels thing has nothing at all to do with energy efficiency, energy independence or global warming and everything to do with money. All those other considerations are a convenient cover to get support from various grass roots enthusiasts. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #295,384 by folkert 10/30/07 10:46:04 AM Reply	Besides... (Currently) It takes nearly 7% more energy to make a gallon of ethanol from Corn than a gallon of ethanol provides. At least that's is the rumors I've been hearing for a few years. In any case, originally, I thought it was supposed to make gasoline burn cleaner, but not a replacement. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* `PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA 29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2`
Post #295,387 by Andrew Grygus 10/30/07 11:11:50 AM Reply	That 7% may be low . . . . . but how can we know with so many people obfuscating the figures? Yes, ethanol was originally just an additive to replace toxic MTBEs which were leaching into the groundwater, mainly to raise the octane rating. Then it got political. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

so much for biofuels - (boxley) - (25) - Oct. 28, 2007, 09:20:57 PM EDT

The free market will provide. - (warmachine) - (5) - Oct. 29, 2007, 08:57:55 AM EDT

You're right - (imqwerky) - (4) - Oct. 29, 2007, 09:45:18 AM EDT

It's worse than that... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Oct. 29, 2007, 11:09:43 AM EDT

I would say, "Unbelievable" - (imqwerky) - (2) - Oct. 29, 2007, 02:37:31 PM EDT

"Nothing that doesn't "? So then it IS "Unbelievable"...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:41:40 AM EDT

oops - (imqwerky) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:49:38 AM EDT

Rejoice! The creation of the Third World middle class! - (warmachine) - (4) - Oct. 29, 2007, 07:56:12 PM EDT

the landowners will be quickly dispossesed by the diktat -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 29, 2007, 08:49:14 PM EDT

Ever the Optimist, Aren't we? :-)P -NT - (imqwerky) - Oct. 29, 2007, 08:53:54 PM EDT

I'll go with that - (warmachine) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2007, 09:56:27 AM EDT

zimbabwe fine example -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 30, 2007, 10:06:27 AM EDT

Well aren't they silly. - (static) - (13) - Oct. 30, 2007, 06:21:38 AM EDT

Here's a good scenario - (imqwerky) - Oct. 30, 2007, 07:29:49 AM EDT

hemp being much more multiuse -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 30, 2007, 07:31:14 AM EDT

Still means less overpriced food - (warmachine) - Oct. 30, 2007, 09:43:41 AM EDT

The biofuel industry chose corn because . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Oct. 30, 2007, 10:23:34 AM EDT

Besides... - (folkert) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2007, 10:46:04 AM EDT

That 7% may be low . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:11:50 AM EDT

Do you *ever* use "etc", or do you think "et al" means... - (CRConrad) - (6) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:45:24 AM EDT

Etc=things, et al=people....HTH :-) -NT - (imqwerky) - (2) - Oct. 30, 2007, 11:56:55 AM EDT

HT... Whom, exactly, do you think you're H'ing? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 31, 2007, 07:38:52 AM EDT

I know, I know... - (imqwerky) - Oct. 31, 2007, 08:36:08 AM EDT

etc is where you keep the configurations for bin HTH -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 30, 2007, 01:11:05 PM EDT

Not really sure, now that I think about it. - (static) - (1) - Oct. 31, 2007, 12:25:06 AM EDT

Cetera="everything else", alia="other things" - (GBert) - Nov. 1, 2007, 11:54:03 AM EDT

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