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New The Caring Continuum
This has been bugging me, well, since Americans started getting it wrong. So let's clarify:

[image|http://homepage.ntlworld.com/peter.whysall1/The%20Caring%20Continuum.jpg||||]

Shall we consider the matter settled, then?


Peter
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New arnt you being as little careless with that assertion?
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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New In spoken American, the "n't" is silent. HTH! ;-)
New Innovative!
That's even better than the "Americans are just being ironic, duh" explanation I've heard elsewhere...


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New How about this interpretation
"I could care less, but don't care enough to try"
~~~)-Steven----

Stapp's Ironical Paradox:
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle."

Col. John P. Stapp - Decelerator 'Test Pilot'
New Or
I could care less, but I don't see how.
I could care less. Naw, who am I kidding?
I could care less. Possible but unlikely.
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Atheism is a religion in the same sense that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
New The real question about this issue is
who gives a fuck anyway?
New Well, there is that.
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Atheism is a religion in the same sense that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
New Not you.
So why post?

Or maybe you do care, but your inner child or not needs the attention of posting to say that you don't, in some kind of hideous Freud-Schroedinger crossover accident.

And that's [link|http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/thatmitchellandwebbsite/numberwang/round1.shtml|numberwang]!

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New Riiight.
That'd be it.

The only rational interpretation of "I could care less" is that the amount you care is non zero, and therefore you care. A bit.

I couldn't care less, you see, and so I really don't care at all.

America: The Caring Society.


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New We who Care the Most
never mention that, because..

..because once we got started, and the bawling ... the humanity, the zeitgeist and all the Upanishads with dual overhead camshafts on a side-valev einstpritzmotoren all wonky and finding out that the Weebl about pie music is from a Bach invention and,

and well, it would all soon get just too - too too.

Me? I could care less that the careless are so uncaring.. to speak carefully - -
- well maybe not -'fully': care-someWhat-fully? that is to say: not half-assed -'fully' but something interpolated twixt that and [pi \ufffd(1-epsilon) d(caring) dt + k],
k being of course -- the Universal Knockwurst constant,
(presuming that the knockwurst temp flow is 0 ... adiabatic.)

I hope this clears it up for you Peter, especially the day after that (Glorious? I trust) Birthday - wouldn't want your care-otid artery to be all athrob or even athwart.


ie Here's your CARE Package :-)



New :-D
New Not to belabor the obvious
I think you are overlooking the slim possiblity of, you know, sarcasm.

Sheesh.
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Atheism is a religion in the same sense that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
New Riiight.
As opposed to the drooling masses just being wrong, you mean?


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New Who couldn't care less about your opinion on this matter?
Me. One of the drooling Americans who actually turns this phrase correctly and couldn't care less if others don't.

This is what you want to argue about? This? Geez. Get outside and walk your dog or something. I could care less that you are wound too tight these days.
New If you're not interested, don't post.
Duh. Go drool in someone else's thread.


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New Can post where and when I want
Might I suggest you use some of that drool as lubricant to get that big stick out of your ass?

My god, you're a surly bastard.
New No kidding!
What's the story, Pete? You have been on a major tear-ass around here. Something going on to make you kick your friends? We're here to help each other. If you need to vent, take to the Flame forum. But you don't have to be a bully everywhere else.
Smile,
Amy
New If the correct meaning is understood, how is it wrong?
Language evolves. Deal with it.
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Atheism is a religion in the same sense that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
New Alas, you're only correct in the US
Now, absurdities in a language confuse non-native speakers but English is such a mess, it confuses the crap out of foreigners already. The trouble is, there are two versions of English that appear to be the same language but aren't. Your language confuses foreigners like Peter and I. Stop it.
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New Only correct in the US?
What else counts? We don't at all mind confusing uppity foreigners.

Particularly those who accuse us of abusing "their" language.

Linguists say the closest language to ours is not that of England, but of Australia. I hold that is because both derive from the same criminal ancestry. Americans got out before the police came, Australians after.

John Hancock signed the Declaration of Independence so large because he owed considerable money to the British crown and wanted King George to be able see he had a bad debt on his hands "without his spectacles".
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Sept. 30, 2007, 06:40:57 PM EDT
New Stupid American language (new thread)
Created as new thread #293941 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=293941|Stupid American language]
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New Stop it? No.
Welcome to the rich pageant that is language.
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Atheism is a religion in the same sense that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
New Sorry, I think your prescriptivist stance here is wrong.
Oversimplified, making you a victim of the "Ethymological fallacy"(*). Here are some professionals discussing the matter, at Language Log: [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000368.html|Post 000368], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001180.html|Post 001180], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001182.html|Post 001182], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001202.html|Post 001202], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001207.html|Post 001207], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001209.html|Post 001209], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001256.html|Post 001256], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002063.html|Post 002063], [link|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002253.html|Post 002253](+), and here are some of their sources: A part of [link|http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifcouldcareless.shtml|the alt.usage.english FAQ], and [link|http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Ejlawler/aue/giveadamn.html|John Lawler's "Give a damn" piece].

HTH!



(*): Google for it, preferably at LL.
(+): I've tried to collect an exhaustive but not exhausting -- and relevant! -- sample from the somewhat larger number of posts that in some fashion touched on the subject (i.e, contained the phrase "could care less").


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
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Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603|Jehovah]
New Ancient Mayans could care less.
[link|http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/03/california_300_megawatt_soloar_facility/|The Register] - a fine publication based in London... that has some strange editorial habits. ;-)

The author of that particular piece, "Austin Modine", seems to be based in the USA.

Cheers,
Scott.
     The Caring Continuum - (pwhysall) - (24)
         arnt you being as little careless with that assertion? -NT - (boxley)
         In spoken American, the "n't" is silent. HTH! ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Innovative! - (pwhysall)
         How about this interpretation - (Steven A S) - (18)
             Or - (Silverlock) - (17)
                 The real question about this issue is - (jake123) - (2)
                     Well, there is that. -NT - (Silverlock)
                     Not you. - (pwhysall)
                 Riiight. - (pwhysall) - (13)
                     We who Care the Most - (Ashton) - (1)
                         :-D -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Not to belabor the obvious - (Silverlock) - (10)
                         Riiight. - (pwhysall) - (9)
                             Who couldn't care less about your opinion on this matter? - (Lily) - (3)
                                 If you're not interested, don't post. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                     Can post where and when I want - (Lily) - (1)
                                         No kidding! - (imqwerky)
                             If the correct meaning is understood, how is it wrong? - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                 Alas, you're only correct in the US - (warmachine) - (3)
                                     Only correct in the US? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                         Stupid American language (new thread) - (warmachine)
                                     Stop it? No. - (Silverlock)
         Sorry, I think your prescriptivist stance here is wrong. - (CRConrad)
         Ancient Mayans could care less. - (Another Scott)

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