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Shooting the messenger (Dean) doesn't help the argument...
Post #285,930
by
Another Scott
5/31/07 9:28:27 AM
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Shooting the messenger (Dean) doesn't help the argument...
Democrats Trusted More Than Republicans on 10 Key Issues
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lincoln
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- (88)
- May 28, 2007, 08:54:25 PM EDT
sounds like the sheeple are truly stupid
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boxley
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- (87)
- May 28, 2007, 09:53:35 PM EDT
Sure they are; they voted for Bush AGAIN in '04.
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CRConrad
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- (86)
- May 29, 2007, 03:06:28 AM EDT
read me in my posts suomi boy :-)
-NT
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boxley
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- (85)
- May 29, 2007, 09:47:18 AM EDT
I did. You keep defending him. That *scares* me.
-NT
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CRConrad
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- (84)
- May 29, 2007, 10:36:11 AM EDT
go back further, I explicitely stated who I would vote for
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boxley
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- (83)
- May 29, 2007, 11:00:48 AM EDT
What,you saying you *don't* defend him at every opportunity?
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CRConrad
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- (82)
- May 29, 2007, 03:38:22 PM EDT
I dislike the " I's hates bush so It must be impeachable"
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boxley
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- (81)
- May 29, 2007, 03:44:10 PM EDT
Good nutshell
-NT
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bepatient
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- May 29, 2007, 04:04:43 PM EDT
Not speaking for anyone else, but I think GWB has committed
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Seamus
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- (79)
- May 29, 2007, 06:35:32 PM EDT
of course the idiot is impeachable
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boxley
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- (71)
- May 29, 2007, 06:50:56 PM EDT
Actually if you read the document
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Seamus
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- (68)
- May 29, 2007, 08:10:41 PM EDT
wrong on both counts
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boxley
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- (57)
- May 29, 2007, 08:21:34 PM EDT
No not wrong.
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Seamus
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- (56)
- May 29, 2007, 08:56:24 PM EDT
again, I said Jackson vs supreme court
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boxley
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- (55)
- May 30, 2007, 09:56:05 AM EDT
Yes you did but it is less relevant to this than you think
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Seamus
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- (53)
- May 30, 2007, 05:03:42 PM EDT
I can name quite a few presidents who did more harm to this
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boxley
)
- (52)
- May 30, 2007, 05:53:54 PM EDT
Oh Well, Then - - -
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Ashton
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- May 30, 2007, 06:09:38 PM EDT
re-read my post
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boxley
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- (1)
- May 30, 2007, 06:43:18 PM EDT
Everyone does Bill
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Seamus
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- May 30, 2007, 06:56:30 PM EDT
Where to begin
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Seamus
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- (48)
- May 30, 2007, 06:49:42 PM EDT
nope, there is a laundry list of impeachable items
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boxley
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- (47)
- May 30, 2007, 07:12:24 PM EDT
We have been over this
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Seamus
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- (46)
- May 30, 2007, 07:24:56 PM EDT
Im curious about your stance on signing statements
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boxley
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- (45)
- May 30, 2007, 07:33:34 PM EDT
In his signings statements he has basically said he isn't
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Seamus
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- (44)
- May 30, 2007, 07:55:18 PM EDT
I beleive you as I have read the same
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boxley
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- (43)
- May 30, 2007, 07:58:37 PM EDT
Impeachment isn't the first response but I added them
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Seamus
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- (42)
- May 30, 2007, 08:38:34 PM EDT
the democrats are too concerned about getting the whole hog
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boxley
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- May 30, 2007, 08:44:06 PM EDT
Signing statements go back to Monroe
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bepatient
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- (40)
- May 30, 2007, 09:10:36 PM EDT
Minor nit
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Simon_Jester
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- (4)
- May 30, 2007, 10:19:29 PM EDT
John Dean had an interesting commentary on them.
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Another Scott
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- May 30, 2007, 10:31:44 PM EDT
GWB has taken this...
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bepatient
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- May 31, 2007, 05:56:00 AM EDT
Rats and constitutional law dont exactly go together
-NT
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boxley
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- (1)
- May 31, 2007, 09:21:11 AM EDT
Shooting the messenger (Dean) doesn't help the argument...
-NT
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Another Scott
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- May 31, 2007, 09:28:27 AM EDT
There is a line item veto.
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hnick
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- (34)
- May 31, 2007, 07:27:32 AM EDT
2 things
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bepatient
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- (33)
- May 31, 2007, 08:09:43 AM EDT
Heh!
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hnick
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- (3)
- May 31, 2007, 12:18:15 PM EDT
as a country we have survived worse
-NT
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boxley
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- (2)
- May 31, 2007, 01:00:27 PM EDT
Think Hookes modulus
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hnick
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- (1)
- May 31, 2007, 06:32:11 PM EDT
+5 Originality - an apt scienterrific application of Hooke!
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Ashton
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- May 31, 2007, 06:52:37 PM EDT
Signing statements
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Seamus
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- May 31, 2007, 05:26:23 PM EDT
another rat reference, why is he an authority on anything?
-NT
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boxley
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- (26)
- May 31, 2007, 05:40:08 PM EDT
Why is he a rat? Because he felt a greater loyalty to the
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Seamus
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- (25)
- May 31, 2007, 05:53:18 PM EDT
yeah, right. He had a greater loyalty to his
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boxley
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- May 31, 2007, 06:00:58 PM EDT
So there is nothing he has done since then to redeem himself
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Seamus
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- (23)
- May 31, 2007, 06:08:36 PM EDT
what has he done?
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boxley
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- May 31, 2007, 06:37:05 PM EDT
So he shouldn't have told the truth?
-NT
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Another Scott
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- May 31, 2007, 06:51:55 PM EDT
he should have been building a case to get all of them
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boxley
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- (13)
- May 31, 2007, 08:01:40 PM EDT
Has anyone else in the US government ever done that?
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Another Scott
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- (11)
- May 31, 2007, 08:42:23 PM EDT
scooter did the right thing
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boxley
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- (10)
- May 31, 2007, 08:54:41 PM EDT
Scooter lied to FBI, obstructed justice, comitted perjury.
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Another Scott
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- May 31, 2007, 09:35:44 PM EDT
"The courage of their convictions, even if they are wrong"?
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CRConrad
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- (8)
- June 1, 2007, 09:34:25 AM EDT
principled!=good in any case
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boxley
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- (7)
- June 1, 2007, 10:50:58 AM EDT
Because you, and people like you, get to vote over there.
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CRConrad
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- (6)
- June 2, 2007, 07:33:48 PM EDT
Given that the Ohio elections were probably rigged . . .
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Andrew Grygus
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- (5)
- June 2, 2007, 07:48:18 PM EDT
Sorry, not good enough; shouldn't have been even close.
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CRConrad
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- (4)
- June 2, 2007, 08:27:54 PM EDT
yer saying it was better in the old days?
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boxley
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- (3)
- June 3, 2007, 10:28:23 AM EDT
WTF are you gibbering about? Yes, of course it was! In...
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CRConrad
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- (2)
- June 3, 2007, 11:21:10 AM EDT
clinton didnt trample the WHAT!
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boxley
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- (1)
- June 3, 2007, 01:29:28 PM EDT
OK, so read it as "Clinton didn't *shatter* it" in stead.
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CRConrad
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- June 3, 2007, 04:45:37 PM EDT
No you tell everything you know and take the consequences
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Seamus
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- June 1, 2007, 06:22:56 AM EDT
What I see in this analysis is -
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Ashton
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- (2)
- May 31, 2007, 07:04:02 PM EDT
so a trained lawyer is no better than a street punk?
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boxley
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- May 31, 2007, 08:00:03 PM EDT
We were talking about RATS
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Ashton
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- May 31, 2007, 09:45:21 PM EDT
Liddy was/is psycho
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Seamus
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- (3)
- May 31, 2007, 07:09:02 PM EDT
why dont you read a real constitutional scholar
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boxley
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- (2)
- May 31, 2007, 07:58:38 PM EDT
Constitutional scholars
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Seamus
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- (1)
- June 1, 2007, 06:17:32 AM EDT
just for grins, what decade of life are you in?
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boxley
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- June 1, 2007, 09:12:00 AM EDT
duplicate
-NT
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Seamus
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- May 31, 2007, 05:27:10 PM EDT
The pre-impeachment hearings re Nixon
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Ashton
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- May 30, 2007, 05:03:55 PM EDT
Just to be clear
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Seamus
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- (9)
- May 29, 2007, 09:00:27 PM EDT
the inteligence estimates need to be publicised
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boxley
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- (8)
- May 30, 2007, 10:00:13 AM EDT
There is a lot to the intelligence side than just the PDB
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Seamus
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- (7)
- May 30, 2007, 05:45:49 PM EDT
absolutely, you just pointed out the problem
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boxley
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- (6)
- May 30, 2007, 05:56:40 PM EDT
Yes he can
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Seamus
)
- (5)
- May 30, 2007, 06:58:29 PM EDT
not without evidence you cant
-NT
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boxley
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- (4)
- May 30, 2007, 07:14:44 PM EDT
This is the crux of the matter
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Seamus
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- (3)
- May 30, 2007, 07:52:12 PM EDT
I would expect future presidents to
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boxley
)
- (2)
- May 30, 2007, 08:04:34 PM EDT
And vis a vis a Congress that is a rubber stamp for...
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inthane-chan
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- (1)
- May 30, 2007, 11:09:30 PM EDT
yup, strong beleiver in tight gridlock
-NT
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boxley
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- May 31, 2007, 09:29:05 AM EDT
He is exactly who he was when he was elected
-NT
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Seamus
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- May 29, 2007, 08:16:15 PM EDT
The "not for"s are bs.
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Silverlock
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- May 29, 2007, 08:23:05 PM EDT
He's impeachable...but he won't be impeached.
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Simon_Jester
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- (3)
- May 29, 2007, 06:52:23 PM EDT
Sure!
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jb4
)
- (2)
- May 30, 2007, 09:10:45 AM EDT
s /Al Gonzales/Jeb Bush/ :-/
-NT
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Another Scott
)
- (1)
- May 30, 2007, 09:34:48 AM EDT
Jeb ain't **that** stupid!
-NT
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jb4
)
- May 30, 2007, 09:35:35 AM EDT
one other thing, there isnt 60 votes so by your definition
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boxley
)
- (2)
- May 29, 2007, 07:44:10 PM EDT
Not yet there isn't, but there's still time
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Seamus
)
- May 29, 2007, 08:14:41 PM EDT
Technically speaking
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Simon_Jester
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- May 30, 2007, 08:21:47 AM EDT
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