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New What is it with the misperception around women's shoes?
I've recently gotten razzed for buying a few pair of pumps for work. They're hard to walk in, they hurt my feet, but they're part of the uniform. Equate them to ties. You dont like them, but you're expected to wear them as part of the professional uniform. And I bet you have more than one or two. Different ties for different shirts and suits. Same thing for shoes. I would hardly call my shoes "entertainment". Then again, I dont think my dishes are very entertaining, either.
New C'mon lady, get with the cliche
Going all intellectual on this stuff just makes life harder for hundreds of cartoonists and thousands of humorists.

You're as bad as L who insists there's no special relationship between women and chocolate.

Well, at least we'll always have Imelda Marcos . . .
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus April 22, 2007, 11:24:25 AM EDT
New Oh Fine. The chocolate thing I'll give you.
And there is intellectual rationale behind this relationship, but I'll spare you and play the game.

Now if you excuse me, I'm off to go buy some shoes and chocolate and get a manny and peddy. And when I get home I'll put on my pretty, pretty apron and new 4 inch heels and cook my family a delicious meal, complete with a homemade layer cake.

Then later, I will please my man (while wearing the shoes) and do the laundry. All with a happy, content, knowing, feminine smile on my face.
New Oooh, that'd save us a lot of trouble . . .
. . developing Stepford wives. We could just clone you.

Keep in mind now, the 4-inch heels go with dark thigh-high stockings and not much else.

[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New That's a scary thought
Clones of me. You sure you really want that?

I'll wear the stockings if you let me wear your helmet, too.
New Deal
Are you going to want a whip to go with that?
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New How very un-Stepford!
Is that part of the stereotype?

Besides, you probably dont even have one.
New Hey, it's you who wanted to do the Stepford thing.
I was thinking of the market. Every engineer at NASA/JPL would be lining up to get one of those Stepford clones, and they'd pay plenty for 'em too!

Years ago I'd now and then visit Liz Hargroves "Seminars for Singles" over in Pasadena. The place was always full of engineers and women who wouldn't touch an engineer with a boat hook because they used to be married to one.

As for the whip, I don't remember. If I have one It'd be too hard to find so I'll just buy a new one (with "new whip"tm fresh leather smell). Remember where I live - we've got plenty of manufacturers of and outlets for that sort of gear here in the "Creative Capital of the World".

A woman I used to work with bought her dope from a bearded and tatooed craftsman of just such leather and chrome riveted accessories. She asked him "how do you know these things work?". He replied, "Me and my boyfriend, we try out every one just to make sure".
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New Don't ask unless you REALLY want to know the answer.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
New Wait. What kinda chocolate thing are you giving him?
Seamus
New Oh, he knows.
New What about us voyeurs? We want to know too.
Seamus
New If I told you I'd have to kill you.
New I guess not
Then I wouldn't get a chance to see a pix of you in the heels and the helmet.
Seamus
New Pix?
But you could see it all "in the flesh"! Only with a chain saw instead of the whip - a sight you'd remember for the rest of your life!
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus April 22, 2007, 06:40:30 PM EDT
New It's that "rest of your life" thing I am worried about
Would like it to be a bit longer
Seamus
Expand Edited by Seamus April 22, 2007, 07:12:08 PM EDT
Expand Edited by Seamus April 22, 2007, 07:12:38 PM EDT
New ICLRPD. (new thread)
Created as new thread #282637 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=282637|ICLRPD.]
New Ya sure that's "the rest of your life" you're talking about?
New after manuel and pedro you should be smilin
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New Cute. Very cute.
New At this point I should mention I missed an opportunity.
I think I probably have more shoes than most males. I realized that the other day when I was deciding which to wear as I've just started to try to match them to what I wear, instead of throwing on whichever smelly pair I feel like being comfortable in. It's taken me a marriage separation to get to this point, note.

And yes, when I did wear ties, I tried to match them to my shirt.

But we all know Andrew is full of cliches. :-)

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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New You have more than two?
One dress, one casual - that's all most men need. A hard work'n bloke would have a pair of work shoes (or boots) and could be excused for having a dress pair too (the ones he got married in) but beyond that is really a bit much, don't ya think?
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New I have eight or so.
I've found that there are more shades of causal and dress than just two. :-)

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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New Feh, old-skool.
1 x work PPC (steelies)
1 x work formal shoes (brogues)
1 x home casual posh white trainers
1 x home casual posh black trainers
1 x home casual posh shoes brown
1 x home casual posh shoes black
1 x home scruffy trainers
1 x walking boots

Plus assorted random Bad Ideas (too small/let the water in/uncomfortable etc)

Some people might walk the dog/wash the car/do the gardening in either their work shoes or their posh home shoes, but I don't.


Peter
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New And here they said . . .
. . the metrosexual lifestyle was dead.
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New Says the man who puts pictures of his crockery on the web.


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New Nowhere in "mens fashion" magazines . . .
. . is crockery mentioned. Shoes, however, are a major issue with them. Well, were, since most of those magazines have gone belly up for lack of readership.

What skin lotion do you use?
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New Reading men's fashion magazines...
...is an activity more metro than I'll ever be.


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New How do you know that?
New Ive read long descriptions of their demise . . .
. . and why they folded. A big subscription promotion for one arrived in the mail 2 days after they announced end of publication so I read the promo out of curiosity.

Crockery was not a feature, never mind any mention of actually washing it yourself (that'd surely wash off your expensive skin cream too, and could damage your manicure).
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New Dunno about that skin creme stuff -
But I did purchase once, for all obv reasons of poifect labelling.. a small aerosol can of a substance marketed (in the Box-style of sartorial elegance and cuthless patter) -

Bullshit Repellent

(I did, on one occasion accompany/lead a candidate for this service to its repository, in the basement. The mere miming of a button press constituted my entire rebuttal to a certain hanging-debate. Love. It.)



New Well if you're gonna show off and list them all...
1 x casual white sneaker/jogger/walking shoes
1 x older joggers used for garden stuff when I remember I have them
1 x casual light brown not-really-a-jogger soft shoe
1 x leather patterned zip-boots
1 x Colorado hiking-ish boots that takes me 5 minutes to put on
1 x black dress shoes that I haven't work in a long time
1 x less dressy black shoes that I used to wear a lot to work
1 x similar shoes but brown
1 x open sandally things, but by Colorado so they look pretty good
1 x sheepskin 'ugh' boots

Hmm. I wonder what I've forgotten.

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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New Meh, if we're counting everything...
Brownish comfortable somewhat-like-sneakers-but-less-casual-than-that Sketchers - I wear these pretty much every day.

Black shiny things for wearing with a suit - I can't remember the last time I wore these.

Brown leather for things I don't want to wear with the black - ditto.

White tenny things for working out - *cough* ditto

Moccasins for around the house - every day

Leather boots for rainy/snowy/cold days - a few weeks ago

Ginormous rubber/leather things for shoveling snow - last year

Also assorted older tennis shoes and so on kept for grubby jobs - last year, but it's getting to be that time again.

If you live in LA and don't do anything active, then yes, two pair might be sufficient.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Living in LA, it also helps keep the count down . . .
. . that I don't wear any shoes at all unless I'm leaving the house. I compensate by having only one pair of shoes, Florshiem dress shoes, but I admit I'm contemplating getting a pair of more casual shoes with softer soles.

On the other hand, we needn't count shoes forced on one for special purposes.
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New Three, up here - add warm boots for mid-winter.
OK, make that four, for those of us with (more or less forced-upon-us) outdoors hobbies: Sandals - for summer biking, outings to the play-park, etc.

Whaddayamean, "old school"?!?

This is, as opposed to those newfangled fashion victims' way, how Men live. (Well, except that four is, admittedly, pretty much at the extreme upper limit.)


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New Do flip flops count?
In the house;
1x pair no name sneakers
1x pair Coleman work boots
1x pair Red Wing wingtip dress shoes
1x pair dress boots (Cowboy style. Yeehaw!)
1x pair flip flops

In use;
Sneakers in good weather, work boots in bad.
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New Shoes
Black casual loafers
Brown casual loafers
Winter hikers/shoveling
Tenny runners
sandals

Who needs more?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
New The tie is doomed.
In the Los Angeles Times Sunday magazine West of a week ago there was an article on ties by a guy who mentioned being rejected on a first date because he forgot to take his off after a business meeting.

I'm old enough to wear a tie and not look weird but younger guys wouldn't dare - and I would never wear one on a date. Of course if the tie goes out in Los Angeles it will soon be gone worldwide - except perhaps in Japan and the Financial district of London.

Even I would never wear a dark tie with a white shirt. You dress like that and everyone thinks you're a Mormon missionary. No danger though, I don't own a white shirt.
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New I have a closet full of ties I don't hardly wear anymore
My favorite was my anti-corporate corporate tie I got from a street vendor in NO. I got rid of it a while ago, but from what I remember it was made of plastic and equated time with money, etc.

Of course, I only wore it once or twice.
Seamus
Expand Edited by Seamus April 23, 2007, 04:08:38 PM EDT
New I wear one tie each year.
It has Santa on it.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New I had a bunch of ties in the late 80s
But haven't worn em since.

Work attire these days is shorts and t-shirt. I might shower, too.
--
Steve
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New My last family funeral was a no tie affair
Ties were something I would have previously thought decorum required. Especially in the case of my grandmother, the 97 year old matriarch of our tribe. Nope, the only people wearing ties were the staff of the funeral parlor and one or two of the oldest of her extended brood*.




*78 descendents showed up at the last family picnic 30 years ago.
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     Oooog - kitchen cleanup time again. - (Andrew Grygus) - (46)
         If you hadn't posted pics... - (static) - (45)
             Oh, it's not an obsession, it's an entertainment. - (Andrew Grygus) - (44)
                 Well it's probably better than what many other men do. - (static) - (1)
                     Actually, all the stuff in "Section-B" . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                 What is it with the misperception around women's shoes? - (Lily) - (41)
                     C'mon lady, get with the cliche - (Andrew Grygus) - (18)
                         Oh Fine. The chocolate thing I'll give you. - (Lily) - (17)
                             Oooh, that'd save us a lot of trouble . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                 That's a scary thought - (Lily) - (4)
                                     Deal - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                         How very un-Stepford! - (Lily) - (2)
                                             Hey, it's you who wanted to do the Stepford thing. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                             Don't ask unless you REALLY want to know the answer. -NT - (jbrabeck)
                             Wait. What kinda chocolate thing are you giving him? -NT - (Seamus) - (8)
                                 Oh, he knows. -NT - (Lily) - (7)
                                     What about us voyeurs? We want to know too. -NT - (Seamus) - (6)
                                         If I told you I'd have to kill you. -NT - (Lily) - (5)
                                             I guess not - (Seamus) - (4)
                                                 Pix? - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                                     It's that "rest of your life" thing I am worried about - (Seamus) - (2)
                                                         ICLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                                                         Ya sure that's "the rest of your life" you're talking about? -NT - (CRConrad)
                             after manuel and pedro you should be smilin -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Cute. Very cute. -NT - (Lily)
                     At this point I should mention I missed an opportunity. - (static) - (16)
                         You have more than two? - (Andrew Grygus) - (15)
                             I have eight or so. - (static)
                             Feh, old-skool. - (pwhysall) - (10)
                                 And here they said . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                                     Says the man who puts pictures of his crockery on the web. -NT - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                         Nowhere in "mens fashion" magazines . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                                             Reading men's fashion magazines... - (pwhysall)
                                             How do you know that? -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                 Ive read long descriptions of their demise . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                     Dunno about that skin creme stuff - - (Ashton)
                                 Well if you're gonna show off and list them all... - (static)
                                 Meh, if we're counting everything... - (admin) - (1)
                                     Living in LA, it also helps keep the count down . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                             Three, up here - add warm boots for mid-winter. - (CRConrad)
                             Do flip flops count? - (Silverlock)
                             Shoes - (jbrabeck)
                     The tie is doomed. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                         I have a closet full of ties I don't hardly wear anymore - (Seamus) - (1)
                             I wear one tie each year. - (admin)
                         I had a bunch of ties in the late 80s - (Steve Lowe)
                         My last family funeral was a no tie affair - (Silverlock)

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