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Post #281,873 by boxley 4/15/07 12:41:19 PM Reply	what does Peter and Malaysian Muslims have in common? [link\|http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/7204E769-B3BF-47B3-AFDA-C728BF851688.htm\|http://english.aljaz...-C728BF851688.htm] The National Fatwa Council had ruled on Thursday that exhibitions on ghosts, ghouls and supernatural beings were forbidden, as they could undermine the faith of Muslims. s/muslim/humanists/g :-) thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #281,894 by a6l6e6x 4/15/07 2:16:39 PM Reply	I suppose that means the're not all bad! :) But, surely, it is more important to teach people how to think than it is what to (or, not to) believe. Alex When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
Post #281,911 by JayMehaffey 4/15/07 5:29:26 PM Reply	Every Humanist I've heard of agrees But, surely, it is more important to teach people how to think than it is what to (or, not to) believe. I've Humanist I've heard of agrees, the religious folk not so much. Jay
Post #281,987 by pwhysall 4/16/07 7:37:39 AM Reply	Still banging the "science is a religion" drum, eh? It isn't, and no number of clever sed statements will make it so. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #281,998 by boxley 4/16/07 8:43:05 AM Reply	Im not claiming that, heh, its an measured observation Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]

Why do you believe in ghosts? - (pwhysall) - (86) - March 27, 2007, 01:49:58 AM EDT

Of course all those proofs or disproofs would fail. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - March 27, 2007, 06:28:18 AM EDT

Sort of like proving Photography to a Blind person! -NT - (folkert) - March 27, 2007, 10:22:59 AM EDT

It's not "non-physical", though, is it? - (pwhysall) - March 27, 2007, 12:04:04 PM EDT

I grew up in a haunted house. - (imric) - (28) - March 27, 2007, 06:53:16 AM EDT

Naturally, the answer is "ghosts". - (pwhysall) - (27) - March 27, 2007, 11:59:20 AM EDT

ROFL - (imric) - (24) - March 27, 2007, 01:34:23 PM EDT

Re: ROFL - (pwhysall) - (15) - March 27, 2007, 01:44:06 PM EDT

*shrug* whatever. - (imric) - (2) - March 27, 2007, 03:16:36 PM EDT

You have no evidence. - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 05:16:43 PM EDT

Uh huh. Whatever. Don't blow a fuse. -NT - (imric) - March 27, 2007, 05:38:20 PM EDT

Ah, your faith is touching . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (11) - March 27, 2007, 04:56:20 PM EDT

Will it? - (pwhysall) - (10) - March 27, 2007, 05:16:58 PM EDT

Oh, you'll know. - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - March 28, 2007, 12:58:07 AM EDT

Faith is belief in the absence of evidence. - (pwhysall) - (8) - March 28, 2007, 09:07:35 AM EDT

you have as much faith as the rest of us by yer standard -NT - (boxley) - (1) - March 28, 2007, 09:47:12 AM EDT

That's quite right. - (pwhysall) - March 28, 2007, 10:08:42 AM EDT

Every logical argument . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - March 28, 2007, 12:45:03 PM EDT

However. - (mmoffitt) - March 28, 2007, 01:10:15 PM EDT

<homer> - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 28, 2007, 01:17:15 PM EDT

And, you do :) -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - March 28, 2007, 02:12:04 PM EDT

Sure. - (Another Scott) - March 28, 2007, 01:42:08 PM EDT

You also have no evidence. - (jb4) - April 3, 2007, 03:33:00 PM EDT

sorry, thats anecdotal evidence :-) -NT - (boxley) - March 27, 2007, 01:46:04 PM EDT

Could have been infrasound, perhaps. - (Another Scott) - (6) - March 27, 2007, 06:42:10 PM EDT

It could have been - (imric) - (5) - March 27, 2007, 08:54:36 PM EDT

I'm not doubting what you saw. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 27, 2007, 10:01:37 PM EDT

Oh, I applaud skepticism. - (imric) - (3) - March 27, 2007, 10:22:39 PM EDT

might have been electronic field fluctuations - (boxley) - (2) - March 28, 2007, 09:48:59 AM EDT

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking! -NT - (bionerd) - March 28, 2007, 10:53:29 AM EDT

Heheh. - (imric) - March 28, 2007, 02:33:14 PM EDT

Oh ye of little nonfaithlessness.. - (Ashton) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 05:23:06 PM EDT

You're right. There is no out there - (bionerd) - March 27, 2007, 05:35:11 PM EDT

No. - (warmachine) - (4) - March 27, 2007, 08:02:25 AM EDT

nit - (boxley) - (3) - March 27, 2007, 09:44:57 AM EDT

How so? -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 27, 2007, 12:06:23 PM EDT

start with this link - (boxley) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 12:49:19 PM EDT

From advanced geometry to Star Trek. - (pwhysall) - March 27, 2007, 01:47:34 PM EDT

I don't know why some people do - (Seamus) - March 27, 2007, 08:46:47 AM EDT

Whadda ya mean science doesnt support "Ghosts"? - (bionerd) - (10) - March 27, 2007, 03:51:44 PM EDT

Become one with the universe - (JayMehaffey) - (4) - March 27, 2007, 04:28:05 PM EDT

care to prove that? - (boxley) - March 27, 2007, 05:22:42 PM EDT

Re: Become one with the universe - (bionerd) - (2) - March 27, 2007, 05:23:12 PM EDT

Not bad, Grasshopper - (Ashton) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 05:41:27 PM EDT

Thanks. I'm getting there. -NT - (bionerd) - March 27, 2007, 05:45:11 PM EDT

You're falling prey to the woo-woos. - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 05:21:44 PM EDT

I dont have to prove anything - (bionerd) - March 27, 2007, 05:29:02 PM EDT

The energy dissipates as heat - (warmachine) - (2) - March 27, 2007, 05:29:45 PM EDT

what absolute rubbish - (boxley) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 07:33:23 PM EDT

The Mac is NOT a PC... - (pwhysall) - March 27, 2007, 11:03:50 PM EDT

pope chimes in - (boxley) - (5) - March 27, 2007, 07:26:20 PM EDT

He needs to get out more. - (Another Scott) - March 27, 2007, 07:39:19 PM EDT

And how many former popes are burning brightly there? -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - March 27, 2007, 07:39:37 PM EDT

Like he knows anything -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2) - March 27, 2007, 08:06:47 PM EDT

he is a licensed exorcist - (boxley) - (1) - March 27, 2007, 09:13:54 PM EDT

Those need psychiatry, not hocus pocus -NT - (tuberculosis) - March 28, 2007, 12:32:53 AM EDT

Define ghost - (orion) - (25) - April 2, 2007, 09:58:07 PM EDT

Go and investigate what entropy is... - (pwhysall) - (24) - April 3, 2007, 02:31:27 AM EDT

Entropy means - (orion) - (23) - April 3, 2007, 03:25:20 PM EDT

The part you seem to have missed - (JayMehaffey) - (22) - April 3, 2007, 03:47:27 PM EDT

Then quantum mechanics breaks down reversibility? - (orion) - (2) - April 3, 2007, 04:21:06 PM EDT

Re: Then quantum mechanics breaks down reversibility? - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - April 3, 2007, 09:51:48 PM EDT

Re: Then quantum mechanics breaks down reversibility? - (orion) - April 3, 2007, 10:05:58 PM EDT

Maybe not. - (Another Scott) - (18) - April 3, 2007, 04:27:15 PM EDT

Re: Maybe not. - (orion) - (17) - April 3, 2007, 05:19:04 PM EDT

This requires reversing time - (warmachine) - (16) - April 3, 2007, 08:07:22 PM EDT

wrong idea - (boxley) - (10) - April 3, 2007, 08:10:21 PM EDT

It just doesn't make sense to me. - (Another Scott) - (8) - April 3, 2007, 08:32:35 PM EDT

Individual souls . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - April 3, 2007, 08:57:56 PM EDT

but I do believe I existed before birth - (boxley) - (5) - April 3, 2007, 09:09:52 PM EDT

I agree - (Lily) - (4) - April 3, 2007, 11:21:08 PM EDT

I wish it were so - (orion) - (3) - April 3, 2007, 11:56:42 PM EDT

It absolutely is so - (Lily) - (2) - April 4, 2007, 06:49:48 AM EDT

Re: It absolutely is so - (orion) - (1) - April 4, 2007, 07:32:11 AM EDT

You can. - (pwhysall) - April 4, 2007, 07:58:31 AM EDT

What it could be - (orion) - April 3, 2007, 09:55:35 PM EDT

Interesting idea - (orion) - April 3, 2007, 09:34:50 PM EDT

From what I heard - (orion) - (4) - April 3, 2007, 09:41:14 PM EDT

Why are there no ghosts at traffic accident blackspots? -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - April 4, 2007, 12:41:15 AM EDT

Re: Why are there no ghosts at traffic accident blackspots? - (orion) - (2) - April 4, 2007, 07:33:51 AM EDT

What "neural net"? "Recycled" how? -NT - (pwhysall) - April 4, 2007, 07:57:54 AM EDT

Neural net in air? - (warmachine) - April 4, 2007, 08:24:41 AM EDT

what does Peter and Malaysian Muslims have in common? - (boxley) - (4) - April 15, 2007, 12:41:19 PM EDT

I suppose that means the're not all bad! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - April 15, 2007, 02:16:39 PM EDT

Every Humanist I've heard of agrees - (JayMehaffey) - April 15, 2007, 05:29:26 PM EDT

Still banging the "science is a religion" drum, eh? - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 16, 2007, 07:37:39 AM EDT

Im not claiming that, heh, its an measured observation -NT - (boxley) - April 16, 2007, 08:43:05 AM EDT

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