He can't contradict his predecessor?

Post #281,499 by warmachine 4/12/07 7:55:16 AM Reply	He can't contradict his predecessor? Never mind the 'I don't want to accept evolution' or the unverifiability crap, does "We cannot haul 10,000 generations into the laboratory," fall under papal infallibility or something? Can bishops claim this as fact like HIV sized holes in condoms? Matthew Greet Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin? - Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
Post #281,504 by JayMehaffey 4/12/07 8:40:50 AM Reply	Technically he could He can't contradict his predecessor? Never mind the 'I don't want to accept evolution' or the unverifiability crap, does "We cannot haul 10,000 generations into the laboratory," fall under papal infallibility or something? I believe that technically he could, as the previous pronouncement was not in the "infallible" category. But the Popes go out of their way to avoid doing so, particularly ones within living memory. Can't have the church appear to be flip-flopping after all. Can bishops claim this as fact like HIV sized holes in condoms? Yep. Pretty much by definition, anybody who is a Catholic bishop would consider any position of the Pope to be fact. Jay
Post #281,668 by Ashton 4/13/07 3:48:31 AM Reply	"Only in matters of 'faith and morals'" re Yep. Pretty much by definition, anybody who is a Catholic bishop would consider any position of the Pope to be fact. ..is the way I heard it. (...back when such futile discussions seemed like a lot of fun.)
Post #281,680 by Another Scott 4/13/07 7:42:08 AM Reply	Yup. Me too. And futile is right. :-)
Post #281,684 by JayMehaffey 4/13/07 8:57:56 AM Reply	Re: "Only in matters of 'faith and morals'" re "Only in matters of 'faith and morals'" re ..is the way I heard it. Normal Catholic doctrine (though I'm not sure if it is an official Church position) grounds our ability to understand the universe in faith. Thus, matters of faith can be easily extended to cover anything. But I was speaking in a more casual sense. Anybody that rises to the level of Bishop in the catholic church might have his points of disagreement with the church, but will in general follow the Catholic party line. Including the concept that the church is a single monolithic structure lead from the top. That is a basic point of the Catholic faith, if you don't agree with that it is hard to say you are a Catholic. (...back when such futile discussions seemed like a lot of fun.) Everything we do is ultimately pointless and futile. Better to learn to enjoy the trip then agonize over it. Jay
Post #281,755 by Ashton 4/13/07 9:30:53 PM Reply	Agree re the practical effect, on the plebs - still, a few Jesuits down in the basement would.. try to parse some rilly Outr\ufffd utterance. After all: it is What They Do. As to all that ..sound and fury, signifying nothing - - Thou sayest; we just pick up a few shiny pebbles on the beach while enjoying the Mystery - and bitching about the ones whose first thought, on spying a particularly colorful one, is - where's my .357 slingshot?

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