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Post #278,361 by Seamus 3/15/07 2:11:48 PM Reply	Re: Please point me to something... Either the lawmakers weren't paying attention to what went into the act or they else the Prez violated the spirit of the act. I think he did both. "As a start, lawmakers are revisiting a last-minute provision added to last year's reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act at the request of the Justice Department. It gives the president authority to replace a US attorney without going back to the Senate for confirmation. At the time, no lawmaker noticed." from: [link\|http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0308/p01s01-uspo.html\|http://www.csmonitor.../p01s01-uspo.html] "REP. DARRELL ISSA: Well, I certainly can explain that this kind of gamesmanship was not the intent under the Patriot Act that gave certain emergency powers." from: [link\|http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june07/attorneys_03-13.html\|http://www.pbs.org/n...orneys_03-13.html] Seamus
Post #278,362 by bepatient 3/15/07 2:15:37 PM Reply	So now ppl in Washington can't read My confidence is even more inspired now. Let's go back to simpler times...when people voted for something before they voted against it :-/ Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #278,368 by Seamus 3/15/07 3:36:06 PM Reply	Re: So now ppl in Washington can't read The post wasn't meant to inspire. Being complicit is definitely not equal to committing the crime, as your first post seemed to imply. The president all his men need to be held accountable, even if only politically. Congress definitely needs to be held accountable for their negligence. I hold more responsible, because they should known better after the way the first patroit act was enacted. Any congressman who is not going fight to uphold their role in this democracy deserves to be voted out of office. Seamus

"They did it too" only works if, ya know, they did it too - (Silverlock) - (77) - March 15, 2007, 09:04:15 AM EDT

Please point me to something... - (bepatient) - (71) - March 15, 2007, 09:51:11 AM EDT

Re: Please point me to something... - (Seamus) - (2) - March 15, 2007, 02:11:48 PM EDT

So now ppl in Washington can't read - (bepatient) - (1) - March 15, 2007, 02:15:37 PM EDT

Re: So now ppl in Washington can't read - (Seamus) - March 15, 2007, 03:36:06 PM EDT

I already said that he has the legal authority. - (Silverlock) - (4) - March 15, 2007, 03:38:10 PM EDT

Who lied about it? Prez? Gonzo? - (bepatient) - (3) - March 15, 2007, 03:52:29 PM EDT

You should learn more about what you are defending. -NT - (Silverlock) - (2) - March 15, 2007, 04:03:06 PM EDT

You should learn to clarify use of pronouns -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - March 15, 2007, 04:28:32 PM EDT

And I was incorrect. - (bepatient) - March 15, 2007, 04:33:07 PM EDT

I'm lost.... - (Simon_Jester) - (61) - March 15, 2007, 09:57:15 PM EDT

nit - (boxley) - (58) - March 15, 2007, 09:59:42 PM EDT

Nope... - (Simon_Jester) - (57) - March 15, 2007, 10:18:21 PM EDT

Point missed - (bepatient) - (56) - March 15, 2007, 10:28:49 PM EDT

I don't think so. - (Simon_Jester) - (55) - March 15, 2007, 10:42:02 PM EDT

bingo - (boxley) - March 16, 2007, 08:55:38 AM EDT

Hillary did it and had no authority - (bepatient) - (53) - March 16, 2007, 10:32:15 AM EDT

Then who let her? - (drewk) - (22) - March 16, 2007, 11:14:31 AM EDT

Thats why they call it TravelGate. - (bepatient) - (19) - March 16, 2007, 11:32:06 AM EDT

And Rove gave the order, and it was followed. - (jb4) - (18) - March 17, 2007, 09:10:44 PM EDT

No, he didn't. And there's sworn testimony that >she< did. -NT - (bepatient) - (17) - March 17, 2007, 09:44:17 PM EDT

Which, of course, they're frantically backpeddaling on. - (jb4) - (2) - March 17, 2007, 09:48:46 PM EDT

Who is backpedaling on what. - (bepatient) - March 17, 2007, 09:51:19 PM EDT

You're forgetting the other part of the analogy .... - (Simon_Jester) - March 18, 2007, 01:05:03 PM EDT

Sworn testimony from this crowd - (Silverlock) - (13) - March 17, 2007, 09:53:35 PM EDT

Look it up yourself if you must - (bepatient) - (12) - March 17, 2007, 10:24:53 PM EDT

Missed point - (Silverlock) - (11) - March 18, 2007, 07:48:21 AM EDT

Make me laugh - (bepatient) - (10) - March 18, 2007, 11:18:10 AM EDT

Then why do you get upset when they get called on it? -NT - (Another Scott) - (9) - March 18, 2007, 11:23:16 AM EDT

Huh? - (bepatient) - (8) - March 18, 2007, 11:27:45 AM EDT

real governing - (Seamus) - (7) - March 18, 2007, 11:38:31 AM EDT

Pessimist, remember? - (bepatient) - (2) - March 18, 2007, 11:41:47 AM EDT

What kind of pessimist? - (Seamus) - (1) - March 18, 2007, 01:07:52 PM EDT

Like what? - (bepatient) - March 18, 2007, 01:11:57 PM EDT

Wouldn't be surprised if that provision was added in conf. - (Another Scott) - (3) - March 21, 2007, 12:23:42 AM EDT

Wow, you're a genius! - (drewk) - (2) - March 21, 2007, 12:40:12 AM EDT

You can call me "Mr. Obvious" if you'd like. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 21, 2007, 12:43:56 AM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Silverlock) - March 21, 2007, 06:12:38 AM EDT

pro/con link - (boxley) - (1) - March 16, 2007, 11:56:35 AM EDT

If that page is basically accurate ... - (drewk) - March 16, 2007, 12:38:16 PM EDT

Re: Hillary did it and had no authority - (Seamus) - (29) - March 16, 2007, 01:49:58 PM EDT

What emails are you talking about? - (bepatient) - (28) - March 16, 2007, 02:05:15 PM EDT

Copy of email - (bepatient) - (26) - March 16, 2007, 02:18:11 PM EDT

Plausible deniability - (drewk) - (6) - March 16, 2007, 02:27:40 PM EDT

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (5) - March 16, 2007, 03:36:52 PM EDT

This is exactly what starts it - (bepatient) - (4) - March 16, 2007, 04:05:35 PM EDT

Isn't it *also* possible - (drewk) - (2) - March 16, 2007, 04:22:21 PM EDT

On this matter - (bepatient) - (1) - March 16, 2007, 04:33:37 PM EDT

Shut your mouth - (drewk) - March 16, 2007, 04:57:03 PM EDT

Miers did not start it - (Seamus) - March 16, 2007, 05:46:51 PM EDT

E-Mails show Rove's Role in Attorny Firings - (lincoln) - (3) - March 16, 2007, 03:09:16 PM EDT

They don't show that at all. Thats why I attached the email. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - March 16, 2007, 03:25:51 PM EDT

You must have better sources than ABC News, right? - (lincoln) - (1) - March 17, 2007, 01:04:45 PM EDT

I guess I do. - (bepatient) - March 17, 2007, 01:55:33 PM EDT

Rove was the person people were looking to ok this - (Seamus) - (14) - March 16, 2007, 03:29:58 PM EDT

BS - (bepatient) - (13) - March 16, 2007, 03:32:33 PM EDT

It is not BS - (Seamus) - (12) - March 16, 2007, 05:36:11 PM EDT

Guesswork, guesswork and more guesswork - (bepatient) - (11) - March 16, 2007, 06:17:33 PM EDT

If I was a reporter - (Seamus) - (10) - March 16, 2007, 06:53:59 PM EDT

Define "involved" - (bepatient) - (9) - March 16, 2007, 08:14:31 PM EDT

like this - (Seamus) - (6) - March 17, 2007, 10:00:10 AM EDT

then no. - (bepatient) - (5) - March 17, 2007, 11:02:45 AM EDT

We may know more next week. - (Another Scott) - March 17, 2007, 11:21:54 AM EDT

Can you point me to the scathing email - (Seamus) - (3) - March 17, 2007, 06:39:52 PM EDT

So now you agree with me? - (bepatient) - (2) - March 17, 2007, 09:46:39 PM EDT

No I don't - (Seamus) - March 18, 2007, 06:38:19 AM EDT

If not Rove, who *did* push it? -NT - (drewk) - March 18, 2007, 09:23:03 AM EDT

is /iz/ - verb - (jb4) - (1) - March 17, 2007, 09:20:49 PM EDT

It'd be funny if it wasn't sad. -NT - (bepatient) - March 17, 2007, 09:47:47 PM EDT

They are already backtracking on Harriet - (JayMehaffey) - March 16, 2007, 02:33:35 PM EDT

Tradition - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - March 15, 2007, 10:31:13 PM EDT

I think this is the section of the renewed Patriot Act. - (Another Scott) - March 15, 2007, 11:07:13 PM EDT

Welcome to the fight, comrade. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 16, 2007, 01:08:18 PM EDT

Dan Froomkin says don't be distracted, keep an eye on Rove. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 17, 2007, 11:23:28 PM EDT

Thats right. Hear the bells? - (bepatient) - (3) - March 18, 2007, 11:19:37 AM EDT

We'll see. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 18, 2007, 11:22:37 AM EDT

hell of a guy! :-) -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - March 18, 2007, 11:33:08 AM EDT

No, You Are! - (Another Scott) - March 18, 2007, 11:41:11 AM EDT

I'm glad I didn't have to explain it to you.
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