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Post #278,615 by Seamus 3/17/07 6:39:52 PM Reply	Can you point me to the scathing email reality you are refering to? If it was the email you linked to at the beginning of this thread, that email shows how involved Gonzales was in determing the mechanics of the firings, what it doesn't show is was pushing this at the white house. Could have been Gonzales, but I think Rove is still the much more likely candidate. Either way, the white house pushed through set section in the 2nd patroit act that allowed them to do this and they used it. Congress needs to be alot more determined not to let legislation slipped through like this again. Seamus
Post #278,622 by bepatient 3/17/07 9:46:39 PM Reply	So now you agree with me? The email that created all the stir is the one I linked. So now, you see, why I question what all the stir is about? And again, the fact that the act was rubber stamped by D and R alike seems to be dismissed because it was "slipped in there". Round and round we go. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #278,653 by Seamus 3/18/07 6:38:19 AM Reply	No I don't Because I am not sure what you believe. Who pushed the firings through? I believe that without Rove's approval it wouldn't have happened. It looks like they were trying to swing the voting towards the republicans in certain states - elections are Rove's area and I don't believe anyone in this administration steps on his toes, except shrub. Could have been Gonzalas, but I don't think so. He has his issues regarding the blocking of investigations that might bite him in the ass. Unfortunately, Congresses has probably let way too legislation be voted on without their intimate knowledge of the details. This is a long term issue to get congress to take responsibility for the legislation they pass. The firings are an immediate issue. It may have been legal, but the ags need to be able to do their jobs without worrying that they will lose their job if they chose the law over politics. Seamus
Post #278,665 by drewk 3/18/07 9:23:03 AM Reply	If not Rove, who did push it? === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]

"They did it too" only works if, ya know, they did it too - (Silverlock) - (77) - March 15, 2007, 09:04:15 AM EDT

Please point me to something... - (bepatient) - (71) - March 15, 2007, 09:51:11 AM EDT

Re: Please point me to something... - (Seamus) - (2) - March 15, 2007, 02:11:48 PM EDT

So now ppl in Washington can't read - (bepatient) - (1) - March 15, 2007, 02:15:37 PM EDT

Re: So now ppl in Washington can't read - (Seamus) - March 15, 2007, 03:36:06 PM EDT

I already said that he has the legal authority. - (Silverlock) - (4) - March 15, 2007, 03:38:10 PM EDT

Who lied about it? Prez? Gonzo? - (bepatient) - (3) - March 15, 2007, 03:52:29 PM EDT

You should learn more about what you are defending. -NT - (Silverlock) - (2) - March 15, 2007, 04:03:06 PM EDT

You should learn to clarify use of pronouns -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - March 15, 2007, 04:28:32 PM EDT

And I was incorrect. - (bepatient) - March 15, 2007, 04:33:07 PM EDT

I'm lost.... - (Simon_Jester) - (61) - March 15, 2007, 09:57:15 PM EDT

nit - (boxley) - (58) - March 15, 2007, 09:59:42 PM EDT

Nope... - (Simon_Jester) - (57) - March 15, 2007, 10:18:21 PM EDT

Point missed - (bepatient) - (56) - March 15, 2007, 10:28:49 PM EDT

I don't think so. - (Simon_Jester) - (55) - March 15, 2007, 10:42:02 PM EDT

bingo - (boxley) - March 16, 2007, 08:55:38 AM EDT

Hillary did it and had no authority - (bepatient) - (53) - March 16, 2007, 10:32:15 AM EDT

Then who let her? - (drewk) - (22) - March 16, 2007, 11:14:31 AM EDT

Thats why they call it TravelGate. - (bepatient) - (19) - March 16, 2007, 11:32:06 AM EDT

And Rove gave the order, and it was followed. - (jb4) - (18) - March 17, 2007, 09:10:44 PM EDT

No, he didn't. And there's sworn testimony that >she< did. -NT - (bepatient) - (17) - March 17, 2007, 09:44:17 PM EDT

Which, of course, they're frantically backpeddaling on. - (jb4) - (2) - March 17, 2007, 09:48:46 PM EDT

Who is backpedaling on what. - (bepatient) - March 17, 2007, 09:51:19 PM EDT

You're forgetting the other part of the analogy .... - (Simon_Jester) - March 18, 2007, 01:05:03 PM EDT

Sworn testimony from this crowd - (Silverlock) - (13) - March 17, 2007, 09:53:35 PM EDT

Look it up yourself if you must - (bepatient) - (12) - March 17, 2007, 10:24:53 PM EDT

Missed point - (Silverlock) - (11) - March 18, 2007, 07:48:21 AM EDT

Make me laugh - (bepatient) - (10) - March 18, 2007, 11:18:10 AM EDT

Then why do you get upset when they get called on it? -NT - (Another Scott) - (9) - March 18, 2007, 11:23:16 AM EDT

Huh? - (bepatient) - (8) - March 18, 2007, 11:27:45 AM EDT

real governing - (Seamus) - (7) - March 18, 2007, 11:38:31 AM EDT

Pessimist, remember? - (bepatient) - (2) - March 18, 2007, 11:41:47 AM EDT

What kind of pessimist? - (Seamus) - (1) - March 18, 2007, 01:07:52 PM EDT

Like what? - (bepatient) - March 18, 2007, 01:11:57 PM EDT

Wouldn't be surprised if that provision was added in conf. - (Another Scott) - (3) - March 21, 2007, 12:23:42 AM EDT

Wow, you're a genius! - (drewk) - (2) - March 21, 2007, 12:40:12 AM EDT

You can call me "Mr. Obvious" if you'd like. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 21, 2007, 12:43:56 AM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Silverlock) - March 21, 2007, 06:12:38 AM EDT

pro/con link - (boxley) - (1) - March 16, 2007, 11:56:35 AM EDT

If that page is basically accurate ... - (drewk) - March 16, 2007, 12:38:16 PM EDT

Re: Hillary did it and had no authority - (Seamus) - (29) - March 16, 2007, 01:49:58 PM EDT

What emails are you talking about? - (bepatient) - (28) - March 16, 2007, 02:05:15 PM EDT

Copy of email - (bepatient) - (26) - March 16, 2007, 02:18:11 PM EDT

Plausible deniability - (drewk) - (6) - March 16, 2007, 02:27:40 PM EDT

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (5) - March 16, 2007, 03:36:52 PM EDT

This is exactly what starts it - (bepatient) - (4) - March 16, 2007, 04:05:35 PM EDT

Isn't it *also* possible - (drewk) - (2) - March 16, 2007, 04:22:21 PM EDT

On this matter - (bepatient) - (1) - March 16, 2007, 04:33:37 PM EDT

Shut your mouth - (drewk) - March 16, 2007, 04:57:03 PM EDT

Miers did not start it - (Seamus) - March 16, 2007, 05:46:51 PM EDT

E-Mails show Rove's Role in Attorny Firings - (lincoln) - (3) - March 16, 2007, 03:09:16 PM EDT

They don't show that at all. Thats why I attached the email. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - March 16, 2007, 03:25:51 PM EDT

You must have better sources than ABC News, right? - (lincoln) - (1) - March 17, 2007, 01:04:45 PM EDT

I guess I do. - (bepatient) - March 17, 2007, 01:55:33 PM EDT

Rove was the person people were looking to ok this - (Seamus) - (14) - March 16, 2007, 03:29:58 PM EDT

BS - (bepatient) - (13) - March 16, 2007, 03:32:33 PM EDT

It is not BS - (Seamus) - (12) - March 16, 2007, 05:36:11 PM EDT

Guesswork, guesswork and more guesswork - (bepatient) - (11) - March 16, 2007, 06:17:33 PM EDT

If I was a reporter - (Seamus) - (10) - March 16, 2007, 06:53:59 PM EDT

Define "involved" - (bepatient) - (9) - March 16, 2007, 08:14:31 PM EDT

like this - (Seamus) - (6) - March 17, 2007, 10:00:10 AM EDT

then no. - (bepatient) - (5) - March 17, 2007, 11:02:45 AM EDT

We may know more next week. - (Another Scott) - March 17, 2007, 11:21:54 AM EDT

Can you point me to the scathing email - (Seamus) - (3) - March 17, 2007, 06:39:52 PM EDT

So now you agree with me? - (bepatient) - (2) - March 17, 2007, 09:46:39 PM EDT

No I don't - (Seamus) - March 18, 2007, 06:38:19 AM EDT

If not Rove, who *did* push it? -NT - (drewk) - March 18, 2007, 09:23:03 AM EDT

is /iz/ - verb - (jb4) - (1) - March 17, 2007, 09:20:49 PM EDT

It'd be funny if it wasn't sad. -NT - (bepatient) - March 17, 2007, 09:47:47 PM EDT

They are already backtracking on Harriet - (JayMehaffey) - March 16, 2007, 02:33:35 PM EDT

Tradition - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - March 15, 2007, 10:31:13 PM EDT

I think this is the section of the renewed Patriot Act. - (Another Scott) - March 15, 2007, 11:07:13 PM EDT

Welcome to the fight, comrade. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 16, 2007, 01:08:18 PM EDT

Dan Froomkin says don't be distracted, keep an eye on Rove. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 17, 2007, 11:23:28 PM EDT

Thats right. Hear the bells? - (bepatient) - (3) - March 18, 2007, 11:19:37 AM EDT

We'll see. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 18, 2007, 11:22:37 AM EDT

hell of a guy! :-) -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - March 18, 2007, 11:33:08 AM EDT

No, You Are! - (Another Scott) - March 18, 2007, 11:41:11 AM EDT

Well, as long as you can bottle it up I'm sure that's perfectly healthy.
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