Post #275,179
12/8/06 2:10:26 PM
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Obama has no chance.
And it would be an electoral landslide for his opponent whomever the opponent was. Pat Robertson could run against Obama and beat him. Wouldn't be close. See, you take a poll and white people don't want to admit that with the curtain drawn, they'd never be able to vote for a Black man for President, so they lie about it in the poll. They actually like to think they could vote for a Black man, but the truth is the overwhelming majority of them would pull the lever for the other guy when no one was looking.
It's not just that I'm from the South that makes me say this. Some of the most disingenuous people on the subject of race I've ever met are from the North and Mid West. Obama might, *might* be able to carry California. And that's only because California is a white minority state. But even in California, I doubt SERIOUSLY Obama would win. All you have to do is look at Tom Bradley. No way he should have lost an election to the Dukester. But there it is. Bradley was a Black man running for Governor.
If the Dem's really don't want to get the White House in 2008, Obama or Hillary will be their candidate.
bcnu, Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #275,198
12/8/06 5:35:20 PM
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agreed thats why all the repo talking heads are pushing them
I have it on good authority that Hannity prayer every night is "please give us one more chance, let hillary win the nomination." thanx, bill
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Post #275,211
12/8/06 8:11:05 PM
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I don't think it is as bad as you say
I don't think the racism situation is as bad as you say. I think Obama could be Robertson for instance, if Robertson where given a chance to rave in public about how everybody who doesn't agree with his specific type of Christianity is an evil devil follower.
But I would agree that people who think it wouldn't be an issue or would help him overall are simply wrong. Obama's best shot right now is serving 8 years as VP first. Getting people used to seeing and hearing him will overcome the majority of the disadvantage being black brings him.
Jay
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Post #275,217
12/8/06 9:17:04 PM
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ask some black folk
His dad is from Africa, his mom white american. You might be surprised. thanx, bill
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Post #275,706
12/13/06 4:21:53 PM
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Having the middle name Hussein alone will finish him.
Given the ignorance of the sheeple, can you picture the negative ads?
Alex
When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
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Post #275,709
12/13/06 4:37:07 PM
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Well, there is that... :-/
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Post #275,721
12/13/06 6:20:11 PM
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More to the point
He has vowed to run a purely postive campaign - no attack ads, no negativity, plans to "rise above" any mud slinging. Sounds wonderful. Except that swiftboating works.
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Post #275,750
12/13/06 11:25:53 PM
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Don't forget Obama rhymes with Osama.
I think the guy is electable but don't want to argue it. I think that currently, almost any Democrat is electable. The reasons I think this are simple.
1. Iraq 2. Iraq 3. Iraq
And then there's Iraq.
C'mon, people realize they were scammed. They don't like being scammed. You've already seen some of the backlash in the last election wherein any seat that changed party was a gain for the Democrats. Not a single pickup for the Republicans.
I will be vastly surprised if the Democrats don't win the next Presidential election. And a metric buttload more seats in congress.
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Post #275,998
12/17/06 6:20:25 PM
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Good on ya.
At my age, I am almost beyond surprise. Looks like you're still young enough to be surprised - and you will be, in 2008. ;0)
bcnu, Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #276,061
12/18/06 7:39:43 AM
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I hope I never get that old
It's my childlike sense of wonder that allows me to talk about the weather. Again.
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Post #276,080
12/18/06 3:36:58 PM
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Ha! Just noticed your sig change. Excellent choice!
I saw him on CSPAN. Another tilt at the windmills, but oh what fun! Certainly would make for the finest First Lady we've had since Rosalyn. And a Brit, too!
bcnu, Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #276,078
12/18/06 3:16:00 PM
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Here's your recipe script for___Surprise!!
1) It's (still...) a (complete) Mystery why anything is 'here'. At all.
2) There is (apparently..) Maxwell's Demon (for those who believe in statistics.)
3) There IS (assuredly) Cosmic Humour. (She's fond of the Brit speeling?)
4) Applying mathematical/logical ideas re causality to the jelloware imagineering of the species is (ImHO) a fool's errand - it's a conceit to imagine that we possess any skillz at the umm, extrapolation-of-events?
Mix that all together and ya gets.. for just One example:
But for the noir/brummagem side of Cosmic Humour.?. we almost "lost" The Berk / Shrub / Village Idiot ... ... to a pretzel!!
Rest case. HTH, etc.
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