Not any more peaceful at all

Post #274,242

11/28/06 4:12:46 PM

Because raving ideologues like yourself (who calls for the death, imprisonment, resettling and treatment as subhumans on a regular basis any he dissaproves of) are not a function of religion, but instead are flaw in humanity. You are a VERY good illustration of this.

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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #274,430

by mmoffitt

11/30/06 8:17:40 AM

Huh?

You're not seriously taking issue with the truth of the following statement:

"More violence has been committed in the name of God than in the name of anything else."

Are you?

bcnu,
Mikem

It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell

Post #274,435

by Another Scott

11/30/06 8:52:04 AM

s /God/Greed/

:-)

I think this topic has been pounded on pretty well in the [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=175218|past].

Without being more quantitative this time, it's difficult to make progress on it.

Should we start a table?

Conflict ........... Cause
Tower of Babel ..... ?
...
Trojan War ......... Lust
...
WWI ................ Hubris (?)
...
Iraq War ........... Hubris/Greed/Idealism/Stupidity/Etc.

?

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #274,469

by mmoffitt

11/30/06 2:47:31 PM

Thanks. The re-reading was fun.

Post #274,477

by imric

11/30/06 3:32:14 PM

Yup.

I don't believe it's true. Thievery and domestic violence alone over the eons would make for more killings than religious killings and 'crusades'; most wars were and ARE over territory and economics (see greed above).

That statement has almost ZERO to do with what I said. Fanatic, uncompromising (fundaMENTAList) ideology is certainly not limited to religion - look to socio-economic philosophies as well, like, oh, say socialism, communism & capitalism. Then there's skin-prejudice, nationalism, and any other excuse that Homo-saps use to elevate themelves as different and 'superior' to others. As I said, you are a good illustration; you quite obviously consider yourself to be superior to those that are religious, and would have no trouble with global internment and genocide of those that do not feel as you do - further, you consider people that do not follow your ideology to be inferior to you and should not be allowed self-rule - instead they should be governed by a 'superior' class that shares your particular ideology! (this is all taken from posts you have made in these forums) Quite simply, eliminate religion and people would still be at the same game - they would simply find different excuses.

Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

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