Post #274,200
11/28/06 11:49:28 AM
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I say, ...
ban all flat-earthers. Xians, Jews and Muslims from all aircraft. Hell, if we ban them all from the world, imagine how much more peaceful the place would be.
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #274,205
11/28/06 12:05:45 PM
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Hmmm.
You should read [link|http://www.amazon.com/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0618680004/|Dawkin's latest book], if you haven't already. Atheists are a tiny minority in much of the world. While it's true that determined minorities are usually the ones that change the world, it's a very tough process.
His [link|http://richarddawkins.net/home|blog] is pretty good too.
I think that it's more likely that atheists will be banned from aircraft than theists will.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #274,224
11/28/06 1:22:19 PM
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You're right.
Atheists will be banned from domestic aircraft *way* before the God-In-My-Image crowd. I know this will wrankle a few, but I seriously do not see much of any difference between the following: Islamic Extremists, Christian Evangelicals, Zionists. With any of the three, their respective gods have chosen *them* and just *them*, so anything they do to the rest of us poor slobs is okie-dokie with The Big Guy™.
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #274,218
11/28/06 1:15:47 PM
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If we banned all the theists...
...wars would start over whether the universe will end by collapse or heat death.
Religion is just an excuse.
Odoru aho ni miru aho!
Onaji aho nara odoranya son son!
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Post #274,219
11/28/06 1:16:54 PM
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Not an excuse, an opiate. ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #274,221
11/28/06 1:17:33 PM
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Sure doesn't seem to mellow anybody out...
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Post #274,282
11/28/06 9:26:07 PM
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South Park did an episode about that
Three-way war between The United Atheist Alliance, The Unified Atheist League and the Allied Atheist Allegiance in [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_God_Go|Go God Go].
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Post #274,285
11/28/06 9:35:05 PM
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IRLRPD. (new thread)
Created as new thread #274284 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=274284|IRLRPD.]
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Post #274,242
11/28/06 4:12:46 PM
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Not any more peaceful at all
Because raving ideologues like yourself (who calls for the death, imprisonment, resettling and treatment as subhumans on a regular basis any he dissaproves of) are not a function of religion, but instead are flaw in humanity. You are a VERY good illustration of this.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #274,430
11/30/06 8:17:40 AM
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Huh?
You're not seriously taking issue with the truth of the following statement:
"More violence has been committed in the name of God than in the name of anything else."
Are you?
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #274,435
11/30/06 8:52:04 AM
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s /God/Greed/
:-)
I think this topic has been pounded on pretty well in the [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=175218|past].
Without being more quantitative this time, it's difficult to make progress on it.
Should we start a table?
Conflict ........... Cause
Tower of Babel ..... ?
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Trojan War ......... Lust
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WWI ................ Hubris (?)
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Iraq War ........... Hubris/Greed/Idealism/Stupidity/Etc.
?
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #274,469
11/30/06 2:47:31 PM
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Thanks. The re-reading was fun.
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #274,477
11/30/06 3:32:14 PM
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Yup.
- I don't believe it's true. Thievery and domestic violence alone over the eons would make for more killings than religious killings and 'crusades'; most wars were and ARE over territory and economics (see greed above).
- That statement has almost ZERO to do with what I said. Fanatic, uncompromising (fundaMENTAList) ideology is certainly not limited to religion - look to socio-economic philosophies as well, like, oh, say socialism, communism & capitalism. Then there's skin-prejudice, nationalism, and any other excuse that Homo-saps use to elevate themelves as different and 'superior' to others. As I said, you are a good illustration; you quite obviously consider yourself to be superior to those that are religious, and would have no trouble with global internment and genocide of those that do not feel as you do - further, you consider people that do not follow your ideology to be inferior to you and should not be allowed self-rule - instead they should be governed by a 'superior' class that shares your particular ideology! (this is all taken from posts you have made in these forums) Quite simply, eliminate religion and people would still be at the same game - they would simply find different excuses.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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