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Post #269,485 by rcareaga 10/5/06 12:49:43 AM Reply	many threads in this weave "words to that effect" kind of makes you wonder what he really said —takes us back to his automatic assumption that the guy who wrote "Kip Hawley is an idiot" on a clear plastic bag deserved to be detained by the TSA and the local law enforcement authorities. [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=268864\|Here's the entire subject thread] just in case you weren't paying attention. Beep basically says—at considerable length, and notwithstanding several invitations to walk it back—that anyone who presumes to express a political opinion disagreeable to a TSA screener richly deserves whatever grief comes his way. Sounds like a fearless libertarian to me—not! Beep might be a great guy in person. Given that many of you have met him, and speak well of him, I'd be prepared to wager real money to that effect. But I only know him from his online presence, and the preponderance of evidence after four years suggests that he is largely a co-enabler of our burgeoning fascist regime. I will treat him accordingly in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, or until the political climate shifts sufficiently that I can regard his ilk as relatively harmless. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #269,489 by bepatient 10/5/06 1:19:42 AM Reply	Again...for the translation impaired. It is you, in your search for a "hero of the cause" that have elevated his adolescent, "gee my buddy told me to do this and it sounds like fun" prank to a beacon for the cause of liberty. I don't have feel any such compulsion to do this. In this search for a hero...the act was compared to Rosa Parks and various and sundry other acts of civil dissent...thus elevating this prank to all new heights...and had my position (of the guy being an ass) elevated to standing for the replacement of TSA with SS black and furthering racism...et al. Tell me, which side do you think is stretching it >just< a bit too far? Sorry for not feeling that strong a desire for hero worship...friend. Me, I'd rather just call jerk on both sides...but, it seems, this makes me a fascist-enabler in your mind...so..as stated...sieg heil. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #269,490 by rcareaga 10/5/06 1:28:58 AM Reply	find once any statement that this guy was a "hero" ...in any of my remarks on this subject. You will not. On the contrary, I observed that provoking a TSA goon was probably not a good idea, But the First Amendment is not reserved for "heroes," as you appear to believe. And you need to lay off the straw. True, it's a gratifying immediate high, but the moral effects are ultimately debilitating—as you are already beginning to demonstrate. Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #269,495 by bepatient 10/5/06 1:56:36 AM Reply	"hero for the cause" elevating to a first amendment issue the juvenile act and its inappropriate response, to me, is indeed elevating the act to hero status...and its direct comparisons to other, more notable cases. Whether you were or not implicating this, you are certainly willing to bring the responses to same into your devoted endeavor of painting my boots black. I'll continue on my merry way...you can take all the minuses for style points that you like...and I'll do the same. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}

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