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Post #265,218 by Ashton 8/17/06 7:38:48 PM Reply	Yeah, Beep - hears ya loud and clear - the rich, no less than the poor are forbidden to steal bread or sleep under bridges.
Post #265,260 by bepatient 8/18/06 9:14:33 AM Reply	Alls fair in love and war Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #265,320 by Ashton 8/18/06 5:05:32 PM Reply	Well.. ya can't have Both.
Post #265,322 by bepatient 8/18/06 5:13:06 PM Reply	Sure you can...just not in unlimited quantity basic economics...but you don't believe in that, do you ;-) Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #265,340 by Ashton 8/18/06 6:17:15 PM Reply	I wot that You Believe in it and that you have lots of company: them what just loves putting numbers on the Important Things (the easy lazy approach to 'quantifying' liff.) Trouble always is.. the Important Things (aren't 'Things' in the first place) are nondenumerable, Every Single One. (OK 'one' is a numeral) But that comfy no-brainer process keeps millions off the streets and orderly arrayed inside those small cloth-covered pens. And the More inside those safe confines, the longer.. the Better, eh? when the population is counted in n.nn [E]8 and all. Else people might be out thinking, walking, smelling, doing other strange things. A Variety of things - as keeps the grey cells ackshully working. New thoughts.. could make trouble with many assumptions; might even completely wreck the Corn/fructose/media unlimited-Consumption ECON-omy!! Alter their voting options. (I feel your trepidation ;-) Carrion.
Post #265,406 by bepatient 8/19/06 1:44:43 PM Reply	Alot of those grey cubbies work to provide things that keep the global population alive...so they can think, walk and smell. How many of those writers you oft quote would have ever been so artistic had they needed to go hunt their dinner? Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #265,439 by Ashton 8/20/06 3:13:44 AM Reply	Dunno if Thoreau got take-out from local diner but I'm sure we can compile a list of hardship cases and the work they did during. I concede the increasing need for a certain 'efficiency' (a very Large word with a family of meanings) especially if population is to be allowed to rise perpetually. But if we rely upon our habitual religio-warz to continue to cull the youngest.. Never Mind about illusions called 'planning'. Every day is a new 'stage' - a Chance to review and decide what effects that homogenization (which follows inescapably with density) - is having upon the daily possibilities for individuals, within the 'efficiently' herded groups. I do not believe that any such concept of 'stages / regular review' has reached public awareness, let alone concern. But you can coast only so far upon the arbitrary abstractions of Econ theories, ancient or du jour, with all those freighted assumptions about 'wealth'. Numbers depicting real Life? - now that requires a particularly insouciant brand of faith. Econ assuredly has its indispensable place in "analysis; then ___; leading to planning" but that ___ connotes regular ENGLISH DISCUSSION: well beyond the Numerology fetish that reduces all human matters to spreadsheets. Too many believe such numbers are 'Real'. I think we shall be finding out about the limits of recent numerology, as Murica attempts to undo much of the Chimp's wreckage; simultaneously begins to face the physics problems of the thermodynamics of a space ship. Can't not-face physics.. for long. Big Mistake, that. IMO Philosophy is not optional, even amongst mindless consumers - though it cannot trump physics laws (either.) Hardship? we ain't seen nuttin yet. As to the movement of the wealth of the former middle-class rapidly to the top n%? Why, people will be discussing that phenom with slide-rules And guns, I'd guess - just about the time that the late-fee for CCs is arbitrarily hiked to .?. $100. Just a guess.. maybe $75 would cause a few to go Postal?? - let's do a survey.. Never know what the tipping-point really IS, now so we?

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