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Yesterday, I had lunch at an Irish pub (relatively) near my place. Food was excellent, the beer (as recommended by the waitress) looked like piss, and tasted much like I'd imagine piss to taste like. It was "Stella Artois", and it was on tap, not from a can or bottle.

Is beer just one of those things that you get into from drinking too much of it because every other frat boy thinks it's cool, or is there actually quality beer out there?
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New Stella Artois is not bad
for a mass market blonde.

It's still a mass market beer, though, and there are a lot of things that go with that.

Try a craft-brewed beer instead. As for specific recommendations in the US market, I'm not familiar with it, so I'll leave it to folks in your neck of the woods to tell you what's out there.
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New For a Belgian style, I like Allagash
[link|http://www.allagash.com/beer.htm|Allagash]
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New If you are not a regular beer drinker,
beer is a beverage made out of yeast shit. The quality of the yeast shit depends on the hallucagens and burnt sugar and type of grain used to feed the yeast. Experiment until you find one YOU like. Me I like Heinekin on tap because it is cold and mild in flavor. Harp, Bass, Nevada Pale Ale.
thanx,
bill
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New I much prefer dark beers
But it is an acquired taste. Up in the Northwest, you should have a pile of microbrewrys. See if you can find a brew pub and get a sampler set of various styles. There just might be something out there you like.
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New Agreed
Try [link|http://www.rockbottom.com/|Rock Bottom Brew Pub]. Location: 1333 Fifth Ave, Seattle. 206-623-3070.

They offer a flight of the five or six beers they're brewing. It's a great way to get a sampler of everything. They usually have quite a mix: a blonde, a red, a porter, a stout (oatmeal stout, usually). Give it a try.
-YendorMike

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New It's somewhat of an acquired taste, like wine.
Find one you like. I prefer IPAs and darker beers. My favorite is a local brew-pubs IPA - nice and hoppy with a full body and clean floral finish. By comparison mass-markets *are* piss in taste and body.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Looks like you'll be drinking Harp at my party then.
S'ok, more Stella for me.

Its mass produced belgian. Hoppier than Heineken or Grolsch...its northern brethren.

It is by no means the finest belgium has to offer...but it is far beyond anything mass produced by AB, Miller Brewing or...(gasp) Coors.
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New No, piss doesn't taste like that . . .
. . as anyone who's overexcited his girl friend knows - it's a lot saltier.
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New Bravo
That one made me laugh out loud.
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New Reminds me of a scene in a book.
It's "Monstrous Regiment" by Terry Pratchett.

The main character, Polly, has just enlisted in the army, disguised as a boy, in a tiny village where the recruitment wagon is. She and the other recruits are spotted a drink in what passes for the sole inn in the place. One of the other recruits says quite calmly "Thish tashtes like horshe pish." (he has a bad lisp) The bartender is obviously upset but after being persuaded by another new recruit and our hero(ine) to serve something better, the original speaker says a bit plaintively "I never shaid I didn't like it."

...

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New "moose turd pie."
New Dang....
That's it.
Just dang.


Dang...
Follow your MOUSE
New All in a day's work.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Try a Mac & Jacks
Its a pretty reliable kind of middlin' ale.

Beer comes in many flavors from thick black stout's that taste like they're made of coffee grounds to very light fizzy things like hefe's and belgian white's. In fact, you might like a Blue Moon belgian style white - often served with a wedge of orange. Great hot weather beer.

Stella lacks hops (as do many belgians IMO) and I much prefer ESBs, IPAs and Pale Ales.

For instance, you might go off in search of a Fuller's London Pride - lovely ale with a great carmel finish.

Its definitely an acquired taste. (Which I seem to have acquired at about the age of 5 when dad first gave me a sip of his Strohs).




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New They have that, I might give it a shot.
I'm going back on Wednesday night - they have a Celtic singer in there who's good and also kind of hot, so I figure I'll go back and watch.
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New That wasn't bad.
Singer was good to listen to, not so easy on the eyes in person. Beer was better, but still didn't approach wine.

OTOH, the company was something else... ;)
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New It's all about timing
... not so easy on the eyes in person.
That's what the beer is for, duh!
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New Didn't need the beer. :D
New Get some Leinenkugal's Red
Not too heavy, tastes great whether from tap or bottle. And it's Made In the USA (central Wisconsin).

Haven't had it in over a year. I need a road trip back home.
lincoln

"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow


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New well thats good to cook shrimp in, but thane is drinking it
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New Leinie's Red IS for drinking
and it beats the flagship brands of the major breweries hands down.
lincoln

"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow


Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.


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New damning with faaint praise :-)
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New What kind of praise will you accept?
Maybe if I ever make it to BeepBash with a stopover in Wisconsin or northern Illinois, I'll bring some along for you to sample. Then you can taste it for yourself.

It beats that disgusting crap they sell all over Texas called Shiner Bock. Utter rotgut.

lincoln

"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow


Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.


I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.


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New I wont accept any because I dont like it :-)
bought a sixpack, swallowed one gulp and used the rest for cooking. Now chitown has a great beer, cant remember the name but has geese on the bottle. In texas I would prefer lone star, falstaff, pearl over shiner bock.
thanx,
bill
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New Goose Island Honker's Ale probably
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New thassit
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New Hoegarden
Beer for people who don't like beer.
Me.
New Along those lines.... #185263
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=185263|#185263]. Also, [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=239903|#239903] if one wants to stick with beer.

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who believes that there are too many good beverages to force oneself to like beer.)
New I can't find it in Seattle - have to settle for Blue Moon



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New Staropramen or Budvar, for lager
But you have to come to Britain for the best bitter.

I had reasonable bitter in the US, but it was too warm and they don't know how to pour it.

In Philly and NYC, at any rate.


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New 6X. If you can import it.
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New Forget beer
J\ufffdgermeister!!
Follow your MOUSE
New J\ufffdger is evil.
Easy to drink, and the wallop doesn't hit until later.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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New I agree
Who needs gold-flecked vomit especially when it rips out your esophagus on the way back up.
New No, that's Goldschlager (sp?)
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New Regardless,
doing shots of those liquers is asking for Punishment!
New s/asking for/the
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New Oooo- I like that one, too
Follow your MOUSE
New Its no even easy to drink
Its licorice flavored.

I can't stand the taste of licorice.

I definitely can't stand the taste of Yuckymeister



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New Austrians/Germans drink that...
...to help calm down their queasy stomachs.

Americans drink that to make their stomachs queasy.

What is wrong with this picture?
-YendorMike

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- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New /me shudders
It is a decent cold medicine though. Tastes better than 44D
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New I think we have a special request for the beepbash
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New a running puke event?
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New No, a bottle just for Laura
It doesn't matter if nobody else wants it. I have a bottle of Drambuie at Bill's house that I've been tackling for the last few years...

Cheers,
Ben
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New Yeah, I was with you when you bought it
Yuck
New It was a good purchase
It gives me something to look forward to each year.

Cheers,
Ben
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New you sleeze!
I coulda been drinkin rusty nails all these years!:-)
thanx,
Bill
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New I've pointed out that it was there, but nobody wanted it.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Expand Edited by ben_tilly May 3, 2006, 11:00:57 AM EDT
New That would otherwise be known as "Critter is Sh*tfaced"
New Rogue
They're in the North West. Lots of different brews by them. I've had a few: Irish Kells, Dead Guy Ale, Yellowsnow, Half-e-weizen, Chocolate Stout. Out of that lot the Kells and Dead Guy are my favourites. I'm lukewarm on Yellowsnow. Didn't care for Chocolate Stout (not a stout fan) and hated the Half-e-weizen (don't like Belgian Wit beers, stupid corriander, bleah!)

I should hopefully be getting my hands on HazelNut Brown Nectar later this year.

Otherwise I suggest a look through ratebeer.com.
lister
New Never cared for them
I do like an Arrogant Bastard (You're not worthy) from time to time - but its a cold weather beer and very bitter.



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     Beer. - (inthane-chan) - (51)
         Stella Artois is not bad - (jake123) - (1)
             For a Belgian style, I like Allagash - (Silverlock)
         If you are not a regular beer drinker, - (boxley)
         I much prefer dark beers - (Silverlock) - (1)
             Agreed - (Yendor)
         It's somewhat of an acquired taste, like wine. - (admin)
         Looks like you'll be drinking Harp at my party then. - (bepatient)
         No, piss doesn't taste like that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
             Bravo - (bepatient)
             Reminds me of a scene in a book. - (static) - (1)
                 "moose turd pie." -NT - (inthane-chan)
             Dang.... - (bionerd) - (1)
                 All in a day's work. -NT - (admin)
         Try a Mac & Jacks - (tuberculosis) - (4)
             They have that, I might give it a shot. - (inthane-chan)
             That wasn't bad. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                 It's all about timing - (drewk) - (1)
                     Didn't need the beer. :D -NT - (inthane-chan)
         Get some Leinenkugal's Red - (lincoln) - (7)
             well thats good to cook shrimp in, but thane is drinking it -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                 Leinie's Red IS for drinking - (lincoln) - (5)
                     damning with faaint praise :-) -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                         What kind of praise will you accept? - (lincoln) - (3)
                             I wont accept any because I dont like it :-) - (boxley) - (2)
                                 Goose Island Honker's Ale probably - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                     thassit -NT - (boxley)
         Hoegarden - (broomberg) - (2)
             Along those lines.... #185263 - (Another Scott)
             I can't find it in Seattle - have to settle for Blue Moon -NT - (tuberculosis)
         Staropramen or Budvar, for lager - (pwhysall)
         6X. If you can import it. -NT - (warmachine)
         Forget beer - (bionerd) - (17)
             J\ufffdger is evil. - (admin) - (6)
                 I agree - (imqwerky) - (4)
                     No, that's Goldschlager (sp?) -NT - (drewk) - (3)
                         Regardless, - (imqwerky) - (1)
                             s/asking for/the -NT - (Silverlock)
                         Oooo- I like that one, too -NT - (bionerd)
                 Its no even easy to drink - (tuberculosis)
             Austrians/Germans drink that... - (Yendor)
             /me shudders - (Silverlock)
             I think we have a special request for the beepbash -NT - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                 a running puke event? -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                     No, a bottle just for Laura - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                         Yeah, I was with you when you bought it - (broomberg) - (3)
                             It was a good purchase - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 you sleeze! - (boxley) - (1)
                                     I've pointed out that it was there, but nobody wanted it. -NT - (ben_tilly)
                     That would otherwise be known as "Critter is Sh*tfaced" -NT - (imqwerky)
         Rogue - (lister) - (1)
             Never cared for them - (tuberculosis)

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