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Post #25,235

by imric

1/23/02 6:23:21 AM

AOL client has killed VPNs I've worked with before.

It IS annoying, Peter; it DOES have security problems, and - hasn't AOL said they want to compete with Passport-like services? That makes me shudder - if anything, even worse than MS! Hell, they market to the 'clueless', do the 'clueless' know what security even is?

Now, having said that, an OSS AOL client would be a major step forward. AOL has toyed with OSS before - and changed thier minds. I can only hope they change thier minds again, and in a big way.

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Post #25,279

by nking

1/23/02 1:12:37 PM

Thanks for your support

I find it odd that Peter claims that AOL does not mess with the Internet part of Windows. This has been proven time and time again that it indeed does.

AOL has been wishy washy over Open Source before. As you said they did toy with the idea of an OSS AOL client.

But give credit where it is due, the Mozilla project is going quite nicely. The one thing that AOL/Netscape has done well with open source.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."

LA Times: AOL Negotiating to Buy RED HAT! - (Andrew Grygus) - (100) - Jan. 19, 2002, 11:50:34 AM EST

Nooo! Nooo! Nyet! Nine! Narf! Nunka! - (nking) - (49) - Jan. 19, 2002, 12:48:11 PM EST

Two things . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (47) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:05:50 PM EST

Oh like it helped Netscape, ICQ? - (nking) - (44) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:07:23 PM EST

Misconception . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:25:06 PM EST

That wasn't what I said - (nking) - (7) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:35:14 PM EST

Counter platform? - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Jan. 19, 2002, 02:36:51 PM EST

Counter Counter Platform - (nking) - (4) - Jan. 20, 2002, 12:59:08 PM EST

Continued, Post-Monster Kids - (nking) - (2) - Jan. 20, 2002, 05:31:42 PM EST

OT: 5 hrs. at the mall Norm? Sheeesh! -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2002, 09:17:56 AM EST

Nope, 15 minutes at the mall, 4 hours at Grandma's house - (nking) - Jan. 21, 2002, 11:48:41 AM EST

Errrr . . Norm? - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 21, 2002, 03:24:29 PM EST

Netscape and Mozilla - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 19, 2002, 02:45:36 PM EST

Eh? - (pwhysall) - (34) - Jan. 21, 2002, 07:29:35 AM EST

AOL whoas - (nking) - (33) - Jan. 21, 2002, 12:01:49 PM EST

Re: AOL whoas - (pwhysall) - (32) - Jan. 21, 2002, 12:17:13 PM EST

if I had my choice between using AOL or not having Net - (nking) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2002, 06:34:26 PM EST

More about AOL - (nking) - Jan. 21, 2002, 07:06:56 PM EST

Excuse me...? - (jb4) - (29) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:26:38 AM EST

Crap? - (pwhysall) - (28) - Jan. 22, 2002, 12:32:09 PM EST

Then stop genuflecting there... - (jb4) - (7) - Jan. 22, 2002, 01:53:15 PM EST

/me slaps jb4 about with a large trout - (pwhysall) - (3) - Jan. 22, 2002, 01:59:21 PM EST

is that a seagoing, fresh water or racerack trout? me dux -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:06:13 PM EST

Given my history in the '70s... - (jb4) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:20:59 PM EST

/me slaps the Shill about with a large Cod - (jb4) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:29:31 PM EST

Occham was all marketing... - (mhuber) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:34:14 AM EST

A more complex hypothesis - (nking) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:24:14 AM EST

______________________S _Shhhhhhhh you fool.. - (Ashton) - Jan. 25, 2002, 06:30:28 PM EST

I've already proven that AOL is crap - (nking) - (19) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:11:20 PM EST

You've done no such thing. - (bepatient) - (18) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:36:02 PM EST

Sure, I am not alone - (nking) - (17) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:18:50 AM EST

Why AOL Don't Suck - (pwhysall) - (16) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:33:12 AM EST

AOL does suck, McDonald's syndrome - (nking) - (13) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:34:32 AM EST

I see we are at that point... - (pwhysall) - (11) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:56:16 AM EST

I'll repeat myself again - (nking) - (9) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:16:20 AM EST

Why bother... - (bepatient) - (8) - Jan. 23, 2002, 08:14:09 AM EST

Oh really? - (nking) - (7) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:05:56 PM EST

AOL keeps changing - (drewk) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:36:49 PM EST

Really - (bepatient) - (5) - Jan. 23, 2002, 04:42:27 PM EST

What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net - (nking) - (4) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:25:22 PM EST

Don't be sorry... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:46:07 PM EST

whether you like it or not - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:56:03 PM EST

Re: What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net - (wharris2) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:46:27 PM EST

Oh really? Mark Two. - (nking) - Jan. 24, 2002, 05:32:06 PM EST

Peter, I see a quite larger reason to work against AOL - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:48:22 AM EST

Hey! Watchit! Leave the Cubbies outta this! ;-) -NT - (jb4) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:16:28 AM EST

By that...er, "logic"... - (jb4) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:15:11 AM EST

Re: By that...er, "logic"... - (pwhysall) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:06:08 AM EST

Monopolizing all electronic delivery on the net. - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2002, 04:13:14 PM EST

The Reg wears differently-colored glasses - (Ashton) - Jan. 20, 2002, 05:33:43 PM EST

Actually, it might be better turned around the other way. - (static) - Jan. 20, 2002, 04:53:21 AM EST

Re: LA Times: AOL Negotiating to Buy RED HAT! - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:57:05 PM EST

Rumors anyway, anything proven? - (nking) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2002, 05:34:41 PM EST

Robert Young: "No Comment". - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 21, 2002, 12:31:55 PM EST

Re: Register speaks .... - (dmarker2) - (37) - Jan. 21, 2002, 09:12:00 AM EST

I don't get it. - (bepatient) - (36) - Jan. 21, 2002, 10:15:51 AM EST

Re: You could well be right. - (dmarker2) - (35) - Jan. 21, 2002, 11:42:26 PM EST

What happens after the AOl buyout - (nking) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:38:35 AM EST

Look at Mozilla - (Andrew Grygus) - (33) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:12:18 AM EST

This is my point. - (bepatient) - (32) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:28:25 PM EST

Not so - (nking) - (9) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:24:45 AM EST

Re: Not so - (pwhysall) - (8) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:48:26 AM EST

AOL trouble - (nking) - (3) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:03:13 AM EST

Enough with the lemons, you two. - (static) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:31:27 AM EST

We also forgot - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:08:46 PM EST

One more lemon - (wharris2) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:46:32 PM EST

AOL client has killed VPNs I've worked with before. - (imric) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:23:21 AM EST

Thanks for your support - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:12:37 PM EST

AOL has their own winsock that is incompatible with other - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:38:12 AM EST

AOL mucking up the OS - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:14:28 PM EST

BeeP, please see my post above - (Ashton) - (21) - Jan. 23, 2002, 07:05:22 AM EST

Sure... - (bepatient) - (20) - Jan. 23, 2002, 10:25:08 AM EST

Yes.. all true-ish. Sorta. - (Ashton) - (19) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:11:23 PM EST

You seem to have a decidedly US-centric view... - (bepatient) - (18) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:32:26 PM EST

You are making the distinction correctly - (Ashton) - (17) - Jan. 23, 2002, 10:09:29 PM EST

Still... - (bepatient) - (13) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:01:27 PM EST

Censorship and freedom of speech - (nking) - (12) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:20:53 PM EST

AOL is under no obligation... - (bepatient) - (11) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:51:03 PM EST

So they can violate the rights of US citizens - (nking) - (10) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:01:06 AM EST

They're not, though. - (pwhysall) - (9) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:18:56 AM EST

That is like saying - (nking) - (8) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:07:55 AM EST

Doh! back atcha Norm. - (Silverlock) - (5) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:25:18 AM EST

Customers and users still have rights - (nking) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2002, 06:03:42 PM EST

Wow...there are some good ones there... - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:21:14 PM EST

You may have a point - (nking) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:45:16 PM EST

Think. - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 08:26:07 PM EST

Think again - (nking) - Jan. 25, 2002, 01:06:57 PM EST

Getting a little off base, aren't we? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:44:00 AM EST

Thanks AG...saved me some typing. -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:11:01 PM EST

Hmm, what about this - (drewk) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:34:48 AM EST

Nothing can legally be done 'to' AOL, - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 08:29:34 AM EST

Of course it cannot - (nking) - Jan. 25, 2002, 01:01:41 PM EST

But what about SuSE? - (jb4) - Jan. 21, 2002, 09:12:21 AM EST

The Marti hypothesis - (kmself) - Jan. 21, 2002, 11:49:12 AM EST

In other words.... - (tjsinclair) - Jan. 21, 2002, 10:32:07 PM EST

CNET: No they ain't! - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 03:09:43 AM EST

it just figures - (nking) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:13:52 PM EST

User Friendly predicts the AOL/Red Hat results: - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:42:19 AM EST

About right! :) - (nking) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:16:20 PM EST

LRPD goes to the bottom of the rumours: - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 08:54:33 AM EST

Words of wisdom - (nking) - Jan. 25, 2002, 12:56:27 PM EST

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