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Post #25,133 by pwhysall 1/22/02 1:59:21 PM Reply	/me slaps jb4 about with a large trout There's more to marketing than misrepresenting your Evul Corporate Empire. Marketing is done by everyone, from Linux to Amnesty International. Peter Shill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #25,135 by boxley 1/22/02 2:06:13 PM Reply	is that a seagoing, fresh water or racerack trout? me dux My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
Post #25,138 by jb4 1/22/02 2:20:59 PM Reply	Given my history in the '70s... ...(much of which I've forgotten...) that would have to be Rainbow.... jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #25,140 by jb4 1/22/02 2:29:31 PM Reply	/me slaps the Shill about with a large Cod Yeah, Yeah, sure... Marketing comes in two forms: Professional Marketing, where the proactitioners perform such acedemic exercises as designing focus groups that don't presage the result (or, worse, "adjust" the result to suit the PR department of a client organization), do proper demographic analyses on past sales, trend analysis, product specification, et al. Then there's Bullshit "Marketing", which is just about everything else that is not Professional Marketing. You know, the type where the vidiots that have actually finagled a way to get paid for this bullshit sit around and discuss such far-reaching item of global import such as the "wow factor" and "sizzle". (Try not to laugh; I actually had a Bullshit Marketer try to tell me how certain aspects of a demo I prepared would increase the "wow factor" and "sizzle" of the product I was demoing. The product? An infusion pump!) So Peter, which do you figure Micros~1 and AOL practice? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)

LA Times: AOL Negotiating to Buy RED HAT! - (Andrew Grygus) - (100) - Jan. 19, 2002, 11:50:34 AM EST

Nooo! Nooo! Nyet! Nine! Narf! Nunka! - (nking) - (49) - Jan. 19, 2002, 12:48:11 PM EST

Two things . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (47) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:05:50 PM EST

Oh like it helped Netscape, ICQ? - (nking) - (44) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:07:23 PM EST

Misconception . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:25:06 PM EST

That wasn't what I said - (nking) - (7) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:35:14 PM EST

Counter platform? - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Jan. 19, 2002, 02:36:51 PM EST

Counter Counter Platform - (nking) - (4) - Jan. 20, 2002, 12:59:08 PM EST

Continued, Post-Monster Kids - (nking) - (2) - Jan. 20, 2002, 05:31:42 PM EST

OT: 5 hrs. at the mall Norm? Sheeesh! -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2002, 09:17:56 AM EST

Nope, 15 minutes at the mall, 4 hours at Grandma's house - (nking) - Jan. 21, 2002, 11:48:41 AM EST

Errrr . . Norm? - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 21, 2002, 03:24:29 PM EST

Netscape and Mozilla - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 19, 2002, 02:45:36 PM EST

Eh? - (pwhysall) - (34) - Jan. 21, 2002, 07:29:35 AM EST

AOL whoas - (nking) - (33) - Jan. 21, 2002, 12:01:49 PM EST

Re: AOL whoas - (pwhysall) - (32) - Jan. 21, 2002, 12:17:13 PM EST

if I had my choice between using AOL or not having Net - (nking) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2002, 06:34:26 PM EST

More about AOL - (nking) - Jan. 21, 2002, 07:06:56 PM EST

Excuse me...? - (jb4) - (29) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:26:38 AM EST

Crap? - (pwhysall) - (28) - Jan. 22, 2002, 12:32:09 PM EST

Then stop genuflecting there... - (jb4) - (7) - Jan. 22, 2002, 01:53:15 PM EST

/me slaps jb4 about with a large trout - (pwhysall) - (3) - Jan. 22, 2002, 01:59:21 PM EST

is that a seagoing, fresh water or racerack trout? me dux -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:06:13 PM EST

Given my history in the '70s... - (jb4) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:20:59 PM EST

/me slaps the Shill about with a large Cod - (jb4) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:29:31 PM EST

Occham was all marketing... - (mhuber) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:34:14 AM EST

A more complex hypothesis - (nking) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:24:14 AM EST

______________________S _Shhhhhhhh you fool.. - (Ashton) - Jan. 25, 2002, 06:30:28 PM EST

I've already proven that AOL is crap - (nking) - (19) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:11:20 PM EST

You've done no such thing. - (bepatient) - (18) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:36:02 PM EST

Sure, I am not alone - (nking) - (17) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:18:50 AM EST

Why AOL Don't Suck - (pwhysall) - (16) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:33:12 AM EST

AOL does suck, McDonald's syndrome - (nking) - (13) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:34:32 AM EST

I see we are at that point... - (pwhysall) - (11) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:56:16 AM EST

I'll repeat myself again - (nking) - (9) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:16:20 AM EST

Why bother... - (bepatient) - (8) - Jan. 23, 2002, 08:14:09 AM EST

Oh really? - (nking) - (7) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:05:56 PM EST

AOL keeps changing - (drewk) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:36:49 PM EST

Really - (bepatient) - (5) - Jan. 23, 2002, 04:42:27 PM EST

What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net - (nking) - (4) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:25:22 PM EST

Don't be sorry... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:46:07 PM EST

whether you like it or not - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:56:03 PM EST

Re: What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net - (wharris2) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:46:27 PM EST

Oh really? Mark Two. - (nking) - Jan. 24, 2002, 05:32:06 PM EST

Peter, I see a quite larger reason to work against AOL - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:48:22 AM EST

Hey! Watchit! Leave the Cubbies outta this! ;-) -NT - (jb4) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:16:28 AM EST

By that...er, "logic"... - (jb4) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:15:11 AM EST

Re: By that...er, "logic"... - (pwhysall) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:06:08 AM EST

Monopolizing all electronic delivery on the net. - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2002, 04:13:14 PM EST

The Reg wears differently-colored glasses - (Ashton) - Jan. 20, 2002, 05:33:43 PM EST

Actually, it might be better turned around the other way. - (static) - Jan. 20, 2002, 04:53:21 AM EST

Re: LA Times: AOL Negotiating to Buy RED HAT! - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 19, 2002, 01:57:05 PM EST

Rumors anyway, anything proven? - (nking) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2002, 05:34:41 PM EST

Robert Young: "No Comment". - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 21, 2002, 12:31:55 PM EST

Re: Register speaks .... - (dmarker2) - (37) - Jan. 21, 2002, 09:12:00 AM EST

I don't get it. - (bepatient) - (36) - Jan. 21, 2002, 10:15:51 AM EST

Re: You could well be right. - (dmarker2) - (35) - Jan. 21, 2002, 11:42:26 PM EST

What happens after the AOl buyout - (nking) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:38:35 AM EST

Look at Mozilla - (Andrew Grygus) - (33) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:12:18 AM EST

This is my point. - (bepatient) - (32) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:28:25 PM EST

Not so - (nking) - (9) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:24:45 AM EST

Re: Not so - (pwhysall) - (8) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:48:26 AM EST

AOL trouble - (nking) - (3) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:03:13 AM EST

Enough with the lemons, you two. - (static) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:31:27 AM EST

We also forgot - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:08:46 PM EST

One more lemon - (wharris2) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:46:32 PM EST

AOL client has killed VPNs I've worked with before. - (imric) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:23:21 AM EST

Thanks for your support - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:12:37 PM EST

AOL has their own winsock that is incompatible with other - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:38:12 AM EST

AOL mucking up the OS - (nking) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:14:28 PM EST

BeeP, please see my post above - (Ashton) - (21) - Jan. 23, 2002, 07:05:22 AM EST

Sure... - (bepatient) - (20) - Jan. 23, 2002, 10:25:08 AM EST

Yes.. all true-ish. Sorta. - (Ashton) - (19) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:11:23 PM EST

You seem to have a decidedly US-centric view... - (bepatient) - (18) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:32:26 PM EST

You are making the distinction correctly - (Ashton) - (17) - Jan. 23, 2002, 10:09:29 PM EST

Still... - (bepatient) - (13) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:01:27 PM EST

Censorship and freedom of speech - (nking) - (12) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:20:53 PM EST

AOL is under no obligation... - (bepatient) - (11) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:51:03 PM EST

So they can violate the rights of US citizens - (nking) - (10) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:01:06 AM EST

They're not, though. - (pwhysall) - (9) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:18:56 AM EST

That is like saying - (nking) - (8) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:07:55 AM EST

Doh! back atcha Norm. - (Silverlock) - (5) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:25:18 AM EST

Customers and users still have rights - (nking) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2002, 06:03:42 PM EST

Wow...there are some good ones there... - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:21:14 PM EST

You may have a point - (nking) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:45:16 PM EST

Think. - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 08:26:07 PM EST

Think again - (nking) - Jan. 25, 2002, 01:06:57 PM EST

Getting a little off base, aren't we? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:44:00 AM EST

Thanks AG...saved me some typing. -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:11:01 PM EST

Hmm, what about this - (drewk) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:34:48 AM EST

Nothing can legally be done 'to' AOL, - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 08:29:34 AM EST

Of course it cannot - (nking) - Jan. 25, 2002, 01:01:41 PM EST

But what about SuSE? - (jb4) - Jan. 21, 2002, 09:12:21 AM EST

The Marti hypothesis - (kmself) - Jan. 21, 2002, 11:49:12 AM EST

In other words.... - (tjsinclair) - Jan. 21, 2002, 10:32:07 PM EST

CNET: No they ain't! - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 03:09:43 AM EST

it just figures - (nking) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:13:52 PM EST

User Friendly predicts the AOL/Red Hat results: - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:42:19 AM EST

About right! :) - (nking) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:16:20 PM EST

LRPD goes to the bottom of the rumours: - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 08:54:33 AM EST

Words of wisdom - (nking) - Jan. 25, 2002, 12:56:27 PM EST

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