Then stop genuflecting there...

Post #25,132 by jb4 1/22/02 1:53:15 PM Reply	Then stop genuflecting there... One last thing. Why is it that whenever I express an opinion I'm accused of worshipping at this altar or that altar? If I worship at any altar, it's the altar of Ockham, Spirit Of The Facts. Then stop genuflecting at the altar of Marketing, the Spirit of Bullshit. (Hell, even your sig indicats that!) (BTW, isn't that Occam...he invented the Razor, didn't he?) jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #25,133 by pwhysall 1/22/02 1:59:21 PM Reply	/me slaps jb4 about with a large trout There's more to marketing than misrepresenting your Evul Corporate Empire. Marketing is done by everyone, from Linux to Amnesty International. Peter Shill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #25,135 by boxley 1/22/02 2:06:13 PM Reply	is that a seagoing, fresh water or racerack trout? me dux My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
Post #25,138 by jb4 1/22/02 2:20:59 PM Reply	Given my history in the '70s... ...(much of which I've forgotten...) that would have to be Rainbow.... jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #25,140 by jb4 1/22/02 2:29:31 PM Reply	/me slaps the Shill about with a large Cod Yeah, Yeah, sure... Marketing comes in two forms: Professional Marketing, where the proactitioners perform such acedemic exercises as designing focus groups that don't presage the result (or, worse, "adjust" the result to suit the PR department of a client organization), do proper demographic analyses on past sales, trend analysis, product specification, et al. Then there's Bullshit "Marketing", which is just about everything else that is not Professional Marketing. You know, the type where the vidiots that have actually finagled a way to get paid for this bullshit sit around and discuss such far-reaching item of global import such as the "wow factor" and "sizzle". (Try not to laugh; I actually had a Bullshit Marketer try to tell me how certain aspects of a demo I prepared would increase the "wow factor" and "sizzle" of the product I was demoing. The product? An infusion pump!) So Peter, which do you figure Micros~1 and AOL practice? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #25,415 by mhuber 1/24/02 12:34:14 AM Reply	Occham was all marketing... He didn't invent the concept. It was a common idea in his lifetime. He just used it a lot. And there is, i've heard, no evidence that he ever said or wrote anything that could be translated anywhere near literaly to "entities should not be multiplied beyond neccessity". A good selection tool for theories. Not an indicator of truth. Easy to over-apply. For example, the theory that there are a bunch of people out there reading this message and possibly replying to it is far more complex - particularly in the multiple-entity sense, but also in others - than some other explanations of what is happening here. A decent sim, for example. Or just one guy - I'm thinking maybe Ashton, with his very distinctive use of language as a pretty good cover for all the more formal-writing side-personae, except that what is identity when you are the whole group? No, I'm rejecting the razor - as William himself would - in favor of the more complex hypothesis here. ---- "You don't have to be right - just use bolded upper case" - annon.
Post #25,418 by nking 1/24/02 1:24:14 AM Reply	A more complex hypothesis Please do contribute to the conversation any complex hypothesis that you can think of. Don't let the dyed in the wool AOL-Lovers or AOL-Jihadists bother you just because your opinions and evidence may not agree with them. Maybe if they suck up enough they can get more free hours online? Got to squeeze out enough to make up for that $23 a month charge, so they can keep their multiple screen names from being disabled. Imagine an ISP that charges more than $20 a month for dial-up service? Who would have thunk it? Once again AOL leads the way! Maybe next you can pay $10 extra a month for them not to sell out your information to other companies? Or how about $5 extra a month to block out pop-up ads? The next feature of AOL 8.0 will be dancing screen otters, which will dance as a script kiddie runs a crack script on your client from the AOL Admin account he cracked into. When you see the otter, log off! :) "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #25,787 by Ashton 1/25/02 6:30:28 PM Reply	______________________S _Shhhhhhhh you fool.. (How'm I doing with the er m-bot? I fear that it's a bit overdone though. Gotta fix the doggerel generator - it's become a bit recursive as the Z-pole goes logarithmic) Now how can you be sure that 'you' aren't dreamstuff in a darkened room and .. it's My dream that 'you are'? (I used to wonder that about self* - but now I know what's dreaming 'me' ;-) *No not Karsten - he's one of Ours Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Glorp\ufffd PS - nice Leibnitzian juxtaposing. Secret: it really IS more complex (and simple) than anything 'they' told us. Erase this message.

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