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New Re: OT when did everyone switch from chains to belts and why
Let me know the history! when you find out how all the lemmings sorta adopted it at once.

Recently dropped-in on such a discussion .. and the consequences of a broken Kevlar belt.

Belt's quieter. It's quite cheaper, too with the drive pulleys and such figured in. I think both factors were loved by management and PR.
(Note that some motorcycles, even a big Hog or two - have used belts for rear drive)

Where it bites you in ass - is every 90K-100K miles OR.. [and some forget this to their peril] every 6-8 years, depending on how lucky you feel and how much thrashing you've done.

Pisses me off.. my Saab had fussless chain; self-tensioning, checked - never needed changing. Newer Plutocrat-5 has the idgit belt.. BUT - it had just been changed when I bought it - I won't have to change it, so WTF.

Note too re belts - by the time you Need one, you are apt to have had to do the same labor anyway - to change the fucking water pump, and maybe a couple cam, crank oil seals on general principles. So it isn't an easy call.

bloody infernal machines..

New I think he's asking about motorcycle drive belts. ;-)
See, e.g., [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=56189|#56189] and Drew's reply.

Cheers,
Scott.
     5/8 inch square differential fill plug - (boxley) - (50)
         Most times that stuff doesn't need to be changed. - (Another Scott) - (31)
             I REFUSE!!! to pay to remove one bolt where I can reach it - (boxley) - (30)
                 Update? -NT - (Another Scott) - (29)
                     PB blaster, crowfoot 5/8ths wrench and a breaker bar - (boxley) - (28)
                         Good. Just the thing for you, here. 36 kB .img - (Another Scott) - (27)
                             I like these better - (boxley) - (26)
                                 Neat! Would be, um, challenging in the snow though. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     hey I live in Atlanta, stay home both snow days -NT - (boxley)
                                 Sparrows - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                     only one hr before a 6hr recharge? feh -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                         2-3 hrs at 220 V. - (Another Scott)
                                 My cousin's got - (imric) - (20)
                                     That site is nuts! "700 HP from Suzuki Hyabusa"! =) -NT - (Another Scott) - (16)
                                         You made me look - (imric) - (1)
                                             Yeah, but it's nuts! - (Another Scott)
                                         Based on limited reading - (broomberg) - (13)
                                             I have a friend with a 700hp pickup - (boxley)
                                             A couple numbers for comparo - (Ashton) - (8)
                                                 Wadaymean "plebes", you effete SF Eurowimp . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
                                                     Waal now, Mr. Cash n'carry on - - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                         Don't know nothin about Harleys . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                                             Oooh - envy; that'd be when I had a mere 500 cc Matchless.. -NT - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                                 well I might settle, afford one of these - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                     Heh - a 00's *Whizzer* ! - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                         difference between a small motor and a bicycle - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                             Pssst. Dot! You gettin' this down? -NT - (Another Scott)
                                             Short answer: He'll get to Heaven before you. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                 No way they can use it - (drewk)
                                                 the old 911 was a pedal car, might as well drive a vw bug -NT - (boxley)
                                     OT when did everyone switch from chains to belts and why? -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Re: OT when did everyone switch from chains to belts and why - (Ashton) - (1)
                                             I think he's asking about motorcycle drive belts. ;-) - (Another Scott)
         Lightly... - (folkert)
         Penetrating oil, proper socket, and air impact wrench., - (Steve Lowe) - (2)
             Impacts are over-rated. :-/ #196868. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 But... the new ones... - (folkert)
         Back in my day, we used to weld a piece of pipe onto them. -NT - (CRConrad) - (13)
             you didnt have wrenches? -NT - (boxley) - (12)
                 That was your problem, wasn't it? - (CRConrad) - (11)
                     and your reply to weld a rod to the bolt was? :-) -NT - (boxley) - (10)
                         Huh? WTF is that question supposed to mean??? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                             One could read it as 'weld a pipe onto the plug' if one ... - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                 Uhh... Yes - that is how one *should* read it. - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                     Um... - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                         Gas tanks & welding . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                             Watched it done on aluminum diesel tanks - (folkert)
                                         ICLRPD - (Steve Lowe)
                                         Of course; through, not over; and of course again. - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                             You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Naah... You're welding facing *away from* the tank. -NT - (CRConrad)

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