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New Urg. You've been processed out of the food chain.
I don't mind hunks of beef, turkey, chicken, pork or fish flesh like that. Though I can often figure out where it came from, by the time I see it it has become a food product not an animal part.


That's a disconcerting viewpoint. Your brain has been washed clean of your own body's needs. Mass food-processing came into being for convenience, and we've turned it into a value-system...? Shudder.
New Maybe I wasn't clear.
Or maybe I was. :-/

Your brain has been washed clean of your own body's needs. Mass food-processing came into being for convenience, and we've turned it into a value-system...?


I don't understand why I left that impression.

Whenever I eat animal parts, I know in my head that an animal died to make that possible. I just don't dwell on it. I don't think about the animal when I have a steak. Not to be flippant but, if I thought about the animal or the farmer or the worker in the field or ... everytime I had something to eat or thought about food, well I wouldn't have time to think of anything else. I don't think about a good filet mignon steak as being part of a rib-cage muscle of a bovine creature even though I know that's what it is.

I don't really think about an apple as being the fruit of a tree either. It's just an apple even though I know the fruit of a tree.

It's not a value system exactly, it's just the way it is from my point of view.

I don't think about food in spiritual terms either. Sorry.

Can you elaborate on what your impression of my post was?

Cheers,
Scott.
New Implication that thinking so was wrong somehow
Are you saying you don't think about that hunk of flesh as being part of the animal because that's somehow distasteful? That's the part that I find odd--humans being squeamish about eating other animals, since we're the self-declared top of the food chain. You'd think we'd revel in it.
New Partially.
It's partially that I don't feel the need to think about where it came from (as discussed above), and partially that I just don't want to go there due to the potentially distasteful aspects. ("If you're squeemish about organ meat, why aren't you a Vegan? How can you be a Vegan and support extinction for domesticated animals? Soy will turn you into a girly man. Humans are natural omnivores - eating only vegetables will give you gas and cause problems down the road. Soy hotdogs only taste good because they pump them full of artificial flavors. Etc.") I generally regard food as something I appreciate, and I enjoy the very occassional extravagent meal, but food generally isn't a big deal for me.

Even at Thanksgiving, I don't "revel" in food too much. It seems over-the-top and wasteful these days.

[link|http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/moderation-which_consists_in_an_indifference/218322.html|Plato]:

"Moderation, which consists in an indifference about little things, and in a prudent and well-proportioned zeal about things of importance, can proceed from nothing but true knowledge, which has its foundation in self-acquaintance."

Plato quotes (Ancient Greek philosopher. 428 BC-348 BC)


YMMV. ;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
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         That last bit has occurred to me too. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             Meet the meat - (ChrisR) - (1)
                 ObHHGTTG scene at Milliways - (Another Scott)
             Factory animal ethics. - (Andrew Grygus)
         For me, it's not about ethics - (bionerd) - (87)
             Know where you're coming from, but... - (Another Scott) - (83)
                 Urg. You've been processed out of the food chain. - (FuManChu) - (3)
                     Maybe I wasn't clear. - (Another Scott) - (2)
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                             Partially. - (Another Scott)
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                         They're certainly not playing the drums! -NT - (admin)
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                             You have that kind of time in the morning - (bionerd) - (50)
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                                                                     Figure in black that points at me? -NT - (jake123) - (1)
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                                                 This is why... - (Yendor)
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                                                     Not mine - (jake123)
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                         ICLRPD - (imric) - (7)
                             And someday I won't - (drewk) - (6)
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                                         That's the truth - (jake123) - (3)
                                             No, there's one printed menu - (tonytib) - (2)
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             Three words for you - (pwhysall) - (1)
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             anything dropped disappeared - (SpiceWare) - (1)
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