Post #201,645
4/2/05 12:30:29 PM
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Know where you're coming from, but...
I'd much rather eat turkey cut right off the bird than the processed "turkey" lunch meat that's so common these days. There's no telling what's in that stuff. And most chicken and ham I see in the local Safeway seems to have ~ 5-10% water added. Even the NY strip steaks I made last night seemed to shrink a lot when they were cooked. Hmmm.
I don't mind hunks of beef, turkey, chicken, pork or fish flesh like that. Though I can often figure out where it came from, by the time I see it it has become a food product not an animal part. However, the idea of organ meat is very unappealing, and the taste of beef liver is revolting to me. Keep the fish heads far away from me, please, and don't ask me to kill or clean something before cooking it. That's not for me.
On the other hand, it's hard to beat a good hot dog. :-)
My wife is conflicted about meat. We feel the same way about processed turkey (especially when it has lots of that clear gelatiny stuff on it), but, like you, she doesn't like steaks either (though she will eat it when I occasionally fix it). She prefers chicken and fish (e.g. mahi-mahi aka dolphin fish) to beef (unless it's a good hamburger) and doesn't like pork (reminds her of Babe too much).
Different strokes I guess.
I don't think there are many Americans as adventurous as Andrew when it comes to food. That's probably a good thing. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,661
4/2/05 3:00:57 PM
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Urg. You've been processed out of the food chain.
I don't mind hunks of beef, turkey, chicken, pork or fish flesh like that. Though I can often figure out where it came from, by the time I see it it has become a food product not an animal part. That's a disconcerting viewpoint. Your brain has been washed clean of your own body's needs. Mass food-processing came into being for convenience, and we've turned it into a value-system...? Shudder.
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Post #201,675
4/2/05 5:38:20 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear.
Or maybe I was. :-/ Your brain has been washed clean of your own body's needs. Mass food-processing came into being for convenience, and we've turned it into a value-system...? I don't understand why I left that impression. Whenever I eat animal parts, I know in my head that an animal died to make that possible. I just don't dwell on it. I don't think about the animal when I have a steak. Not to be flippant but, if I thought about the animal or the farmer or the worker in the field or ... everytime I had something to eat or thought about food, well I wouldn't have time to think of anything else. I don't think about a good filet mignon steak as being part of a rib-cage muscle of a bovine creature even though I know that's what it is. I don't really think about an apple as being the fruit of a tree either. It's just an apple even though I know the fruit of a tree. It's not a value system exactly, it's just the way it is from my point of view. I don't think about food in spiritual terms either. Sorry. Can you elaborate on what your impression of my post was? Cheers, Scott.
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Post #201,712
4/3/05 4:14:00 AM
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Implication that thinking so was wrong somehow
Are you saying you don't think about that hunk of flesh as being part of the animal because that's somehow distasteful? That's the part that I find odd--humans being squeamish about eating other animals, since we're the self-declared top of the food chain. You'd think we'd revel in it.
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Post #201,713
4/3/05 9:01:01 AM
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Partially.
It's partially that I don't feel the need to think about where it came from (as discussed above), and partially that I just don't want to go there due to the potentially distasteful aspects. ("If you're squeemish about organ meat, why aren't you a Vegan? How can you be a Vegan and support extinction for domesticated animals? Soy will turn you into a girly man. Humans are natural omnivores - eating only vegetables will give you gas and cause problems down the road. Soy hotdogs only taste good because they pump them full of artificial flavors. Etc.") I generally regard food as something I appreciate, and I enjoy the very occassional extravagent meal, but food generally isn't a big deal for me. Even at Thanksgiving, I don't "revel" in food too much. It seems over-the-top and wasteful these days. [link|http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/moderation-which_consists_in_an_indifference/218322.html|Plato]: "Moderation, which consists in an indifference about little things, and in a prudent and well-proportioned zeal about things of importance, can proceed from nothing but true knowledge, which has its foundation in self-acquaintance."
Plato quotes (Ancient Greek philosopher. 428 BC-348 BC) YMMV. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
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Post #201,669
4/2/05 4:19:16 PM
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Serendipity strikes again!
Just stopped by my local grocery and knew in an instant these were there just for you. They are now in a pot happily simmering, or at least simmering as happily as dead fish heads can.
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Post #201,671
4/2/05 4:41:02 PM
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How Roly Poly!
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Post #201,674
4/2/05 5:35:53 PM
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They're certainly not playing the drums!
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Post #201,676
4/2/05 5:39:35 PM
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Eat them up, yum! ___________________________________Or not.
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Post #201,694
4/2/05 8:21:37 PM
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I managed to "mechanically separate" . . .
. . better than a pound and a half of good pink salmon meat from those heads and the bones under them. I can use it to make a salmon spread or something - have to look for a recipe.
The rest is back in the pot with some vegetables, white wine, herbs and vinegar simmering into fish stock which I'll clarify tonight and freeze.
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Post #201,695
4/2/05 8:35:15 PM
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Reminds me of a friend in middle school.
He would quite often bring [link|http://www.netecon.com/html/bouillab.htm|bouillabaisse] his mother made to lunch in a thermos. It always smelled rather icky to me, but it looked interesting.
Those must have been some giant heads to get ~ 24 oz flesh out of them!
I'm sure you'll make quite a tasty dish from those various fish parts. After all, if it didn't taste good people wouldn't eat it (if they had a choice).
Enjoy! No need to save any for me though. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,697
4/2/05 8:50:04 PM
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Well actually . . .
. . it was one head split in half, but there were some pretty good lumps of meat in the back end. Folded up under the head was the entire skelleton of the salmon except the tail and that's where most of the meat came from. The ribs are thick on a fish that large so the knife had to miss a fair amount. The whole tray was 5 pounds and sold at $0.99/#.
I got it at a Korean grocery down the street which has excellent seafood at a wide range of prices and very high end beef cuts at very high prices.
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Post #204,817
4/25/05 10:37:35 PM
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Imric, Admin and Another Scott
are familiar with Barnes & Barnes classic song "Fish Heads". Will wonders never cease?
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Post #204,821
4/25/05 11:39:32 PM
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Dr. Demento was everywhere... :-)
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Post #204,875
4/26/05 1:45:43 PM
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keyword: "WAS"
Thanks to Clear Channel, over a dozen stations that used to play him last year don't this year. Heaven forbid that a station doesn't fall into the generic claptrap formula for Top 40 junk that CC demands once they do a hostile takeover of station after station.
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Post #204,822
4/26/05 1:16:50 AM
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Add one more.
Obscure Dimento tracks r us :-)
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Post #204,837
4/26/05 10:10:34 AM
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The rolly polly fish heads?
Guess it's [link|http://lyrics.opendb.net/lyrics/Fish%20Heads/202333|roly poly]. I remember the song and the video for it.
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Post #204,838
4/26/05 10:16:18 AM
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Bill Paxton & Bill Mummy?!?!
Never knew they were involved with the [link|http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218976/|Fish Heads video] before now.
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Post #204,856
4/26/05 12:41:20 PM
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I used to fantasize
about marrying Billy Mummy when I was a little girl. I thought he was hot. :-P
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Post #204,876
4/26/05 1:48:51 PM
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typo - it's Bill Mumy
child actor on "Lost in Space" and last seen in "Babylon 5"
lincoln
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Post #201,752
4/3/05 5:48:40 PM
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The final outcome.
I have a 3 pound billet of clarified and defatted fish stock in the freezer. Salmon's a little strong as fish stock, but it'll do. For the 1-1/2 pounds of recovered salmon meat: Salmon Paté | 1/2 # | Salmon meat | | 4 oz | Cream Cheese | | 1 T | Lemon juice | | 1/4 t | Salt | | 1 oz | Onion | | 1/2 T | Horseradish |
Puré all together (sharp blade of your food processor) T=Tablespoon t=teaspoon. Great for spreading on crackers, toast, or whatever have you. Now some may consider this recipe a little bit rich - it isn't - it's a lot more than a little bit. For those who fear decadence I present another recipe - thinner, but definitely lower in calories. Salmon Paté Lite | 1/2 # | Salmon meat | | 1/2 cup | Cottage Cheese | | 1 T | Yogurt | | 2 t | Lemon juice | | 1/4 t | Salt | | 1 oz | Onion | | 1/2 T | Horseradish |
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Post #201,756
4/3/05 7:57:47 PM
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Oh screw that
What's the point of salmon pat\ufffd if you're going to count the damn calories. If you're dieting, eat a damn carrot.
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Post #201,760
4/3/05 8:45:44 PM
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Which is exactly why . . .
. . I only made a little of the low calorie one just to see if it was edible. The bulk of the salmon went into the rocket fuel version.
Breakfast tomorrow will be toasted black bread spread with salmon paté and topped with a poached egg.
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Post #201,829
4/4/05 12:13:06 PM
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And here we have it!
A luxury breakfast made from fish heads and bones. Not bad.
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Post #201,838
4/4/05 12:37:37 PM
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You have that kind of time in the morning
to make a breakfast like that? I'm lucky to chow down a breakfast bar and a cup of coffee!!
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Post #201,840
4/4/05 12:39:59 PM
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Andrew has a very short commute.
Alex
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Post #201,841
4/4/05 12:45:16 PM
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Get up earlier, then.
I'm usually up and at 'em by 0530.
I cannot tolerate having to rush around in the morning.
Peter
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Post #201,843
4/4/05 1:03:20 PM
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I cannot tolerate too little sleep
I'm a real witch if I dont get my 8 hours. Guess I'd rather be perky and eat a crappy breakfast.
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Post #201,844
4/4/05 1:08:04 PM
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I don't do perky in under 9.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #201,852
4/4/05 1:52:14 PM
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s/ in under 9//
-YendorMike
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Post #201,856
4/4/05 2:38:41 PM
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Given opportunity, I'm quite sure that admin would do perky!
Although, as he said, she has to be 9 or over. :-P
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #201,859
4/4/05 2:59:07 PM
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These are your words, and not mine...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #201,860
4/4/05 3:01:00 PM
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"Plausible deniability" Uh huh.
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Post #201,915
4/5/05 12:57:10 AM
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Go to bed earlier, then.
Carpe diem, and all that.
Peter
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Post #201,920
4/5/05 2:02:10 AM
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In order to be able to rise at 05-frigging-30 ???
You must be out of yer fooking mind!
Getting up at 05:30 isn't "carpe diem", it's carpe middle-of-the-fucking-nightem.
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Post #201,926
4/5/05 2:55:53 AM
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You'll notice those who rise at 5:30am are very healthy . .
. . because all who weren't healthy that tried that died.
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Post #201,928
4/5/05 3:06:13 AM
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Yer gettin' old.
Well, middle-aged; once you hit old age (i.e. the week after next), you'll be up before god :-)
Coffee, papers and breakfast is not an affair to be rushed.
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Post #201,942
4/5/05 8:07:22 AM
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Old??? Bah, whippersnapper -- until just a few years ago...
...I was more likely to *go to bed* at that time, than to get up out of it!
Seems more like it's *you* who are old -- you may be younger than me, chronologically, but you *live* like some old fart.
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Post #201,943
4/5/05 8:11:39 AM
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"When ah were a lad..."
Sure sign of impending wrinkly-dom.
I get up early because I *can*, not because I *have to*. (I leave the house at 7 and have been known to rise at 6.45 [5 min shower|5min shave/clean teeth|5 min get dressed and take 1 slurp of coffee]) when the previous night's quaffing has had deleterious effects)
Sleep is for the weak, anyway.
Peter
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Post #201,951
4/5/05 8:50:57 AM
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What ezz thees...
"Sleep" you spake of?
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Post #201,973
4/5/05 10:44:20 AM
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That stands befo-ore me
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Post #201,974
4/5/05 10:44:49 AM
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Figure in black that points at me?
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Post #202,031
4/5/05 3:50:02 PM
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HA! Great!
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Post #202,117
4/5/05 9:12:49 PM
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not to be rushed for sure,
but at your desk in the office
thanx,
bill
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Post #202,035
4/5/05 4:06:48 PM
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Hey, BTW!
[link|http://www.comics.com/comics/monty/archive/monty-20050402.html|Speaking of which]...
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Post #202,039
4/5/05 4:18:48 PM
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:-)
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Post #201,847
4/4/05 1:35:47 PM
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Re: You have that kind of time in the morning?
You might not believe just how little time this took and how little attention. Just a couple walk-bys in the kitchen while sipping coffee and reading the morning papers.
I admit a flexible breakfast time is one of the few advantages of self employment, and it's good to have a decent breakfast because I very seldom have time for lunch.
And of course not having kids helps a whole lot. As for sleep, it varies from 5 hours to 10, but mostly around 7.
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Post #202,563
4/8/05 10:44:38 PM
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Another breakfast - (bionerd safe).
Had this the last two days, but I'm out of eggs so it'll be something else tomorrow. [link|http://www.aaxnet.com/clove/recipes/jsd_omlaspara1.html|Asparagus Raft Omelet]
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Post #202,628
4/9/05 2:33:03 PM
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A) ObSpellNit: "supErb" B) Step 3, "RUN" - where to and why?
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Post #202,634
4/9/05 3:26:36 PM
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It was there just for you :)
As for "Run", I'm a firm believer in mis en place, so my recipes are divided into a "prep" (compile) section that can be done well in advance (often even days), and a "run time" section containing the steps that must be done just before serving.
Now a young man entertaining a lady should not resort to this method - it frightens women something awful to see a guy turn out complex dishes with so little apparent effort and they'll do a "Doug the Engineer" on you. It's necessary under those circumstances to get in trouble and need some help.
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Post #202,636
4/9/05 3:41:30 PM
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See, that's my problem
It's hard enough not jumping in when my mother-in-law is busily drying out a standing rib roast. To pretend I don't know something I'm actually quite good at just ain't going to happen.
Fortunately, I'm no longer trying to impress young women.
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Post #202,677
4/10/05 12:18:37 AM
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Actually, "mis en place" is dangerous with older women too.
They're kind of burned out on cooking, so after seeing you do a couple of apparently effortless meals it'll be "oh, but you're so much better at it" and you're stuck with all the cooking.
On the other hand, she can often be trained to wash all the dishes and stuff afterwards as a sex avoidance ploy. If you've served yourself enough wine you'll be long asleep by time she's done and showered - so she's home free and can get a good night's sleep.
Of course, if you've not servered yourself too much wine, you're going to be well rested in the morning and horney as a hoot owl and she's in trouble.
Actually, she's probably well rested too, and still half asleep and won't really mind that much.
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Post #202,708
4/10/05 3:12:53 PM
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Is this your experience with...
...with Rose (not her real name (also not her real name)) speaking?
Just wondering, you know... Wondering how you're going to explain this to her: Are you A) plastering your normal experience with *her* all over the Internet, or are you B) gathering this kind of experience with *another* woman?
Good luck with this one, Gryge! ;^>
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Post #202,714
4/10/05 3:27:36 PM
4/10/05 3:30:49 PM
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I hope you don't really expect a response . . .
Actually, Rose (not her real name (also not her real name)) is too busy digging through the political stuff to read this forum anyway.
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Post #202,802
4/11/05 2:03:18 AM
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That doesn't work either
Ever since I worked in a restaurant, I can't cook without cleaning as I go. By the time I'm plating the food, there's only the one or two last pans to clean, and they're either wiped out or soaking before I sit down to eat. I'd actually rather do the cooking myself than have to clean up someone else's mess.
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Post #202,803
4/11/05 2:09:58 AM
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Yeahbut . . .
There's still the plates , wine glasses silverware and that sort of thing. Women can take a lot of time on that stuff if there's no automatic dishwasher.
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Post #202,804
4/11/05 2:24:44 AM
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Good point
And if it were up to me we wouldn't waste cabinet space on a diswasher.
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Post #202,826
4/11/05 9:09:33 AM
4/11/05 9:21:11 AM
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You're way off base again
I would gladly do the dishes in exchange for a fine meal (even a mediocre meal), and the faster I got done, the faster I could move on to thanking him.
You're hanging out with the wrong women.
Edited by bionerd
April 11, 2005, 09:21:11 AM EDT
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Post #202,847
4/11/05 10:50:47 AM
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Well, that's what people tell me . .
. . but when I ask where these "right" women hang out, they just look up at the ceiling and say, "You just have to go out there and find them". In other words, they haven't a clue where any might be either.
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Post #202,862
4/11/05 11:55:59 AM
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Guess we're in the same boat.
I dont know where the right men hang out, either.
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Post #202,876
4/11/05 1:06:54 PM
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You two should get a room :-P
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Post #202,877
4/11/05 1:10:01 PM
4/11/05 1:10:24 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself:)
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Edited by jake123
April 11, 2005, 01:10:24 PM EDT
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Post #202,881
4/11/05 1:46:02 PM
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Whew!
In the last week I've been advised to get a room with Folkert, Nightowl and now Andrew. If I heeded your advice I'd be a very busy woman. ;-P
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Post #202,882
4/11/05 1:47:30 PM
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But you've been complaining how un-busy you are...
-YendorMike
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Post #202,884
4/11/05 2:03:40 PM
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It has become a meme :-)
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #202,941
4/12/05 12:36:32 AM
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I'm wondering why you're keeping track. :-)
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Post #202,825
4/11/05 9:03:17 AM
4/11/05 9:20:28 AM
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You're kidding me, right?
IMO, there is nothing sexier than a man who knows his way around the kitchen, especially since I hate to cook. It's wonderful to lounge with a glass of wine watching a man do his thing. It makes a gal feel pampered.
Edited by bionerd
April 11, 2005, 09:20:28 AM EDT
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Post #202,834
4/11/05 9:48:17 AM
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This is why...
...I've taken to preparing meals for the family on Sunday. I love to cook, but during the week, I work until at least 5. My fiancee gets to stay home and take care of everyone (me plus her (well, our) two kids.) Part of that is cooking, even if it's just ANOTHER job for her to do. So I give her Sundays off from the cooking dutiees, and it gets me a chance to cook for the whole family. It's good to teach the kids (two boys) that Men Can Cook, Too.
-YendorMike
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Post #202,846
4/11/05 10:46:53 AM
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Yes, but we know you're not normal -
you post on IWeThey.
Women love to bitch about men not sharing the cooking, and may even have convinced themselves of that, but it's rarely true. Most women consider the kitchen their power base and their cooking a major leverage over their men and are uncomfortable yielding that leverage.
Wise men stay away and restrict their cooking to throwing slabs of raw cow over hot coals and "improving" it by brushing on some potion that ruins it - after which they beat their chests and boast of their grilling prowess. Regardless of what they say, this is what most women want.
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Post #202,855
4/11/05 11:26:15 AM
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Not mine
I do all the cooking... at least when we lived together. Since I'm far far more competent than she is in the kitchen (she can burn water) it's just been better that way.
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Post #202,865
4/11/05 12:09:05 PM
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Don't agree
Well, that's not true for the circles I move in, anyhow.
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Post #202,875
4/11/05 1:05:24 PM
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I think this is one of those "american culture" things.
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Post #202,885
4/11/05 2:32:59 PM
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Nah. Some do, some don't
My wife and I are both rather good cooks. She's more traditional, as in the way her mother used to do it. I tend to experiment more. Depending on what we are making, we sometimes even cooperate, but not very often. I do a lot of the prep work for her if I'm around.
We have friends who are like Andrew described.
Other friends just regard food as fuel and don't really care if it was nicely prepared or dumped from a can.
It's hard to generalize.
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Post #202,904
4/11/05 5:13:41 PM
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Sweeping generalisations 'r' us...
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #202,908
4/11/05 6:21:43 PM
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Well, how else . . .
. . are we able to offend the maximum number of people with the minimum effort? Efficiency counts!
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Post #201,833
4/4/05 12:21:19 PM
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Hmmmm, my wife would like those...
and very likely she would make soup with the heads, too.
When she was in SF yesterday buying half of a yellow feather chicken she asked for the head and feet. I let her eat them, although someday I'll try chewing on chicken feet.
Tony
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Post #201,863
4/4/05 3:06:51 PM
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ICLRPD
"someday I'll try chewing on chicken feet."
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- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Post #201,875
4/4/05 5:18:57 PM
4/4/05 5:19:33 PM
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And someday I won't
Hey, look at that. That day is today. And tomorrow is looking good for a repeat performance.
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Edited by drewk
April 4, 2005, 05:19:33 PM EDT
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Post #201,876
4/4/05 5:23:05 PM
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You gotta get yourself out on Sunday to have some
dim sum. Very good food, and yes, it includes chicken feet. Lotsa tiny bones, but tasty nonetheless.
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Post #201,878
4/4/05 6:01:44 PM
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Well, spicy is good, too
at least my wife likes spicy chicken feet as a snack, and they are easy to find here (e.g. Lion, Ranch 99, and Marina supermarkets, and of course in San Francisco they're cheaper and better quality).
Dim sum is very good, although it helps to eat it with some one who speaks Chinese.
Tony
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Post #201,881
4/4/05 6:32:50 PM
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That's the truth
Chinese restaurants (ie- restaurants that are owned and operated by Chinese people, in contrast to "Chinese Restaurants" a la Ho-Lee Chow) have two menus; one for those who can speak the lingo, and one for those that can't.
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Post #201,884
4/4/05 6:58:48 PM
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No, there's one printed menu
for non-Chinese speakers (normal Western style menu), and the Chinese only specials hand-written on paper that's posted on the wall (if the restaurant isn't fancy), and the specials you have to ask for (e.g. special New Year's noodles). I'm sure if you knew what to ask for they'd give you the specials, but first you have to know...
At least, that's what I've seen in Chinese restaurants for Chinese people. But, it helps having Chinese friends and a Chinese wife.
Tony
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Post #201,905
4/4/05 9:54:39 PM
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Love to be able, but I don't have a Chinese wife
Can I borrow yours?
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Post #201,906
4/4/05 10:05:48 PM
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No way!
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