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New Ideally, yes. But it only takes one lucky malcontent
to make headlines.

It's not like guns are used for masacres daily, either.
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And what are we doing when the two most powerful nations on earth -- America and Israel -- stomp on the elementary rights of human beings?

-- letter to the editor from W. Ostermeier, Liechtenstein

New Besides
Their partners are not normally in their residences when off duty, and this was clearly an off duty issue.

Brenda



"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
New Holy geez, try to keep up
That's about the case in Britain that I mentioned earlier. Police in Britain aren't armed with guns anyway.

Arkadiy: but when they are, a lot more people get killed than would if the perp had been armed with a big knife, say.
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New I'm trying
I must have missed that switch over... I don't feel all that great and my concentration isn't up to par.

Sorry.

Brenda



"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
New Nah, I'm sorry
that was a little harsh of me, in retrospect. Hindsight's 20/20, as they say.
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New No problem
I probably should be in bed, but I'm bored of being in bed, so I thought I'd try and catch up online.

Unfortunately, my thinking is pretty ragged at the moment. It's okay Jake, I didn't take it harshly, really. :)

Brenda



"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
New Re: Holy geez, try to keep up
Not strictly true, but when our boys/girls in blue do carry, they don't mess around: the police at Heathrow (the only place they routinely carry; every force has an ARU) are armed with sub-machine guns.

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Expand Edited by pwhysall March 24, 2005, 08:58:35 PM EST
New The Binary option?
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New I meant that the perp needs to get lucky against a cop
Or get a gun from a criminal.

And then we're back at square 1
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And what are we doing when the two most powerful nations on earth -- America and Israel -- stomp on the elementary rights of human beings?

-- letter to the editor from W. Ostermeier, Liechtenstein

     Another school shooting? - (warmachine) - (69)
         The grandfather was a policeman. - (Another Scott)
         Generally by the handgrips or stock -NT - (drewk)
         birthday presents when they are 8 years old? - (boxley) - (9)
             Aren't guns locked up so kiddies can't get them? -NT - (warmachine) - (8)
                 Ah, but guns don't kill people, remember. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     But They ARE consistent: They have LOTS of people locked up. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                         But it's The Land Of The Free(TM)(R)! -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Yah, well, I'll bet the locked-up ones don't Own much land.. -NT - (CRConrad)
                 Why should the guns have been locked? - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                     met folks from that rez, small community, sux -NT - (boxley)
                     I'll give ya that one - (warmachine)
                 what good is a gun if you cant get to them? - (boxley)
         Who cares? He was just a redskin - (drewk) - (50)
             Without video, TV doesn't care. With video, it's everywhere. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Here's the real reason for less coverage - (Nightowl)
             We have the coverage here - (jbrabeck) - (46)
                 Did you *really* not get the sarcasm? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                     No, I got it - (jbrabeck)
                 Ditto here - (Nightowl) - (13)
                     Where? - (jbrabeck) - (12)
                         All I know is what I heard - (Nightowl) - (11)
                             Use the links in previous post - (jbrabeck) - (10)
                                 I can read the Tribune - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                     Hindsight - (jbrabeck) - (7)
                                         Re: Hindsight - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                             I wear size 14 steelies... - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                 Appearances - (Nightowl) - (3)
                                                     Re: Appearances - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                         Whatever - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                                             ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                         Here's some more links - (Nightowl)
                                     look at the suicide rates of native teens vs others - (boxley)
                 Darn right it's an American problem - (bionerd) - (29)
                     Strays OFF the path of normalcy? - (ben_tilly)
                     How old are your kids? - (jbrabeck) - (27)
                         You said it - (Nightowl) - (25)
                             There's a much simpler solution - (jake123) - (24)
                                 Re: There's a much simpler solution - (Nightowl) - (22)
                                     Good lord - (jake123) - (21)
                                         How could that have been accomplished - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                             Police are supposed to have guns - (jake123) - (8)
                                                 So tell me... - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                                     Yeah, but you live in the US - (jake123) - (5)
                                                         Does carrying including storing? - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                                             Not a lot of people gunning - (jake123) - (3)
                                                                 Thanks for explaining that - (Nightowl)
                                                                 go down to verdun and get one - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                     Hey box, I've not been in Mtl for over two years now - (jake123)
                                                     In the military - (Steven A S)
                                         Step 1: take an axe to police officer... -NT - (Arkadiy) - (10)
                                             Step 2: be restrained by said officer's partner. -NT - (jake123) - (9)
                                                 Ideally, yes. But it only takes one lucky malcontent - (Arkadiy) - (8)
                                                     Besides - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                                         Holy geez, try to keep up - (jake123) - (6)
                                                             I'm trying - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                                 Nah, I'm sorry - (jake123) - (1)
                                                                     No problem - (Nightowl)
                                                             Re: Holy geez, try to keep up - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                 The Binary option? -NT - (jb4)
                                                             I meant that the perp needs to get lucky against a cop - (Arkadiy)
                                 last weekin atlanta one guy in jail kills 4 people - (boxley)
                         Re: How old are your kids? - (bionerd)
             yea, fox news is already jumping on that bandwagon - (daemon)
         Some editorials from the local newpaper - (jbrabeck)
         Question about the Tribal Chairman's comments - (drewk) - (2)
             He may mean - (jbrabeck)
             much darker,inflicted by a full blood (appearing) - (boxley)
         Checkout the flash - (broomberg) - (1)
             there is the root cause, listening to John Lennon tunes - (boxley)

You can tell they are used to feeling highly competent in their home worlds.
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