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Appearances mean little.


They have to be taken in context, Peter. It isn't as simple as everyone who dresses like this echoes this and that, it's watching how and when it happens. If this student suddenly started dressing in the black coat, or suddenly wore the shoelaces. If he wears nothing BUT the trench coat and shoes with red laces, if he suddenly exhibited odd behavior.

Gosh, really? Thanks for patronising me. I'd never have guessed that things like that have to be taken in context. Brenda, I live in my boots - they're practically sentient. I wear my long coat EVERY DAY. I wore it (well, one like it) EVERY DAY when I was at college and University. And red laces? Give me strength.
Stop watching the kids and start talking to them. <-- clue, quite important[0]
You have to look at the circumstances, (i.e. a dtudent in a school setting), and the nature of the changes (i.e. when did he start doing this, after he talked about shooting up the school? Right after Columbine? etc. etc. etc.).

I imagine that pretty much every even slightly disaffected kid in America (and across the Western world, come to that) pondered gunning up their classmates, post-Columbine. Some weren't smart enough to keep their mouths shut.
But tonight, on Mastermind, Brenda's chosen specialised subject will be The Bleeding Obvious. </Fawlty>
I'm not dumb enough to believe everything is as black and white as if this person dresses like this or does this, he's bound to do this... it has to have more factors than just that.

Bingo!
You scored two points and no passes.
[0]quite important in the same way that the Sun is quite hot.


Peter
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I wasn't trying to patronize you.. I don't even hardly know what the word means.

If I offended you, I'm sorry. I was stating things I've studied, and I've been studying about school shootings ever since slightly before Columbine.

I'm not up for this today, I have to go lie down. But I wasn't trying to patronize you, whatever that is. I'll deal with anything else when I feel better.

Brenda
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"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
New ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #200192 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=200192|ICLRPD]
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     Another school shooting? - (warmachine) - (69)
         The grandfather was a policeman. - (Another Scott)
         Generally by the handgrips or stock -NT - (drewk)
         birthday presents when they are 8 years old? - (boxley) - (9)
             Aren't guns locked up so kiddies can't get them? -NT - (warmachine) - (8)
                 Ah, but guns don't kill people, remember. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     But They ARE consistent: They have LOTS of people locked up. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                         But it's The Land Of The Free(TM)(R)! -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Yah, well, I'll bet the locked-up ones don't Own much land.. -NT - (CRConrad)
                 Why should the guns have been locked? - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                     met folks from that rez, small community, sux -NT - (boxley)
                     I'll give ya that one - (warmachine)
                 what good is a gun if you cant get to them? - (boxley)
         Who cares? He was just a redskin - (drewk) - (50)
             Without video, TV doesn't care. With video, it's everywhere. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Here's the real reason for less coverage - (Nightowl)
             We have the coverage here - (jbrabeck) - (46)
                 Did you *really* not get the sarcasm? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                     No, I got it - (jbrabeck)
                 Ditto here - (Nightowl) - (13)
                     Where? - (jbrabeck) - (12)
                         All I know is what I heard - (Nightowl) - (11)
                             Use the links in previous post - (jbrabeck) - (10)
                                 I can read the Tribune - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                     Hindsight - (jbrabeck) - (7)
                                         Re: Hindsight - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                             I wear size 14 steelies... - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                 Appearances - (Nightowl) - (3)
                                                     Re: Appearances - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                         Whatever - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                                             ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                         Here's some more links - (Nightowl)
                                     look at the suicide rates of native teens vs others - (boxley)
                 Darn right it's an American problem - (bionerd) - (29)
                     Strays OFF the path of normalcy? - (ben_tilly)
                     How old are your kids? - (jbrabeck) - (27)
                         You said it - (Nightowl) - (25)
                             There's a much simpler solution - (jake123) - (24)
                                 Re: There's a much simpler solution - (Nightowl) - (22)
                                     Good lord - (jake123) - (21)
                                         How could that have been accomplished - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                             Police are supposed to have guns - (jake123) - (8)
                                                 So tell me... - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                                     Yeah, but you live in the US - (jake123) - (5)
                                                         Does carrying including storing? - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                                             Not a lot of people gunning - (jake123) - (3)
                                                                 Thanks for explaining that - (Nightowl)
                                                                 go down to verdun and get one - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                     Hey box, I've not been in Mtl for over two years now - (jake123)
                                                     In the military - (Steven A S)
                                         Step 1: take an axe to police officer... -NT - (Arkadiy) - (10)
                                             Step 2: be restrained by said officer's partner. -NT - (jake123) - (9)
                                                 Ideally, yes. But it only takes one lucky malcontent - (Arkadiy) - (8)
                                                     Besides - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                                         Holy geez, try to keep up - (jake123) - (6)
                                                             I'm trying - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                                 Nah, I'm sorry - (jake123) - (1)
                                                                     No problem - (Nightowl)
                                                             Re: Holy geez, try to keep up - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                 The Binary option? -NT - (jb4)
                                                             I meant that the perp needs to get lucky against a cop - (Arkadiy)
                                 last weekin atlanta one guy in jail kills 4 people - (boxley)
                         Re: How old are your kids? - (bionerd)
             yea, fox news is already jumping on that bandwagon - (daemon)
         Some editorials from the local newpaper - (jbrabeck)
         Question about the Tribal Chairman's comments - (drewk) - (2)
             He may mean - (jbrabeck)
             much darker,inflicted by a full blood (appearing) - (boxley)
         Checkout the flash - (broomberg) - (1)
             there is the root cause, listening to John Lennon tunes - (boxley)

It is a weapon of mass distraction to keep us away from the real issues at hand.
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