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Post #198,207
by broomberg
3/12/05 1:34:37 PM
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New There is no THEY
There is me. My project, my headache, my development.

And there is an overreaching DBA who we borrowed for a simple Oracle install.

Which was a mistake.

He ended up installing clustering stuff that modified the inittab that needed to be turned off. Which meant he was so clueless that he had no business touching my box.
Post #198,214
by imric
3/12/05 2:33:00 PM
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New Ugh.
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Post #198,248
by boxley
3/12/05 5:44:40 PM
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New ya dinna cluster unless directed to do so explicitly
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Post #198,252
by gdaustin
3/12/05 6:05:17 PM
3/12/05 6:17:48 PM
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New Yes there is...
The overreaching DBA and his interventionist management.

But if you really think it's just the "he", then it's time to dispense with him and install Oracle yourself, or bring in your own contractor. Installing Oracle is not that hard.

Unfortunately, I'm at a "big company" and we're not permitted that option. The DBA "must" install. We have a couple of lab machines, not on the corporate "server" network and I started an Oracle install there. I had one quick question for the DBA about a standards doc, and then she was on to me. After that, it went downhill quickly. Next time, I'll just do it the way I think it should be done.

The DBA did complement me that my install was exactly as she would have done it, but she owns it now. Even on the lab machine.

She lets me pick the development language, and pretty much just makes sure the database continues to operate and not run out of space. I was angry a while back because it was performing terrible and she didn't know the difference between "analyze" statistics and "gather" statistics. Know she knows, after I sent her the page number of the Performance tuning manual.

Glen Austin
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Post #198,304
by broomberg
3/12/05 11:52:25 PM
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New You have to remeber how we are organised
We have a business unit that does marketing databases.
He works "there".
We have a print unit that does direct mail.
I work "here".

I've probably got far more experience installing and maintaining Oracle instances than him, but I'm a busy guy, he's not, so I figured I could let him do it.

So I asked for his time up the chain, over the wall, down the chain.

He has no ownership of it, and when it crashes, it will fall to me to make it right.
     Job language choices - (broomberg) - (31) - Feb. 24, 2005, 11:36:16 AM EST
         You should be using control tables. - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2005, 12:09:26 PM EST
             Surely you meant to say "SmallTalk"? -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2005, 12:33:33 PM EST
                 you mean Smalltalk? -NT - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 26, 2005, 11:22:00 PM EST
         typical DBA response - (boxley) - Feb. 24, 2005, 12:11:12 PM EST
         Yeah, that calls for choice language. -NT - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 24, 2005, 12:13:06 PM EST
         Someone else should carefully take him aside... - (ben_tilly) - (15) - Feb. 24, 2005, 01:17:58 PM EST
             Won't happen - (broomberg) - (14) - Feb. 24, 2005, 01:42:10 PM EST
                 Difference between can and should - (JayMehaffey) - Feb. 24, 2005, 02:42:58 PM EST
                 Got it - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 24, 2005, 02:48:02 PM EST
                 of course there is always room for sql queries - (boxley) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2005, 03:07:16 PM EST
                     C w/ nested SQL - (broomberg) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2005, 03:33:26 PM EST
                         Well there's the problem - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2005, 05:12:05 PM EST
                             He has Perl people - (broomberg) - Feb. 24, 2005, 05:34:18 PM EST
                 I feel your pain re command-line/shell phobia - (Meerkat) - (7) - Feb. 25, 2005, 04:38:49 PM EST
                     Now, I'm all weird on this. - (pwhysall) - (4) - Feb. 26, 2005, 02:34:02 AM EST
                         I have my Happy Hacking keyboard here at work. - (static) - (3) - March 2, 2005, 01:21:47 AM EST
                             No good for me. - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 2, 2005, 01:38:53 AM EST
                                 I used a real VT320 for a while in a previous job. - (static) - (1) - March 3, 2005, 01:27:46 AM EST
                                     Re: I used a real VT320 for a while in a previous job. - (pwhysall) - March 3, 2005, 01:41:16 AM EST
                     Us Old-timers report: - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2005, 04:27:20 AM EST
                         Ctrl-= - subscript Ctrl-+ - superscript - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 28, 2005, 09:22:03 AM EST
         <Pssst.> - (Another Scott) - Feb. 24, 2005, 06:24:09 PM EST
         Who does have the responsibility to pick language? - (tablizer) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2005, 03:40:23 PM EST
             Not a chance - (broomberg) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2005, 05:27:59 PM EST
                 But he's *got* a good reason - (drewk) - Feb. 27, 2005, 06:47:14 PM EST
         After reading the whole thread.... - (gdaustin) - (5) - March 12, 2005, 12:31:16 PM EST
             There is no THEY - (broomberg) - (4) - March 12, 2005, 01:34:37 PM EST
                 Ugh. -NT - (imric) - March 12, 2005, 02:33:00 PM EST
                 ya dinna cluster unless directed to do so explicitly -NT - (boxley) - March 12, 2005, 05:44:40 PM EST
                 Yes there is... - (gdaustin) - (1) - March 12, 2005, 06:17:48 PM EST
                     You have to remeber how we are organised - (broomberg) - March 12, 2005, 11:52:25 PM EST

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