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New Yes there is...
The overreaching DBA and his interventionist management.

But if you really think it's just the "he", then it's time to dispense with him and install Oracle yourself, or bring in your own contractor. Installing Oracle is not that hard.

Unfortunately, I'm at a "big company" and we're not permitted that option. The DBA "must" install. We have a couple of lab machines, not on the corporate "server" network and I started an Oracle install there. I had one quick question for the DBA about a standards doc, and then she was on to me. After that, it went downhill quickly. Next time, I'll just do it the way I think it should be done.

The DBA did complement me that my install was exactly as she would have done it, but she owns it now. Even on the lab machine.

She lets me pick the development language, and pretty much just makes sure the database continues to operate and not run out of space. I was angry a while back because it was performing terrible and she didn't know the difference between "analyze" statistics and "gather" statistics. Know she knows, after I sent her the page number of the Performance tuning manual.

Glen Austin
Collapse Edited by gdaustin March 12, 2005, 06:17:48 PM EST
Yes there is...
The overreaching DBA and his interventionist management.

But if you really think it's just the "he", then it's time to dispense with him and install Oracle yourself, or bring in your own contractor. Installing Oracle is not that hard.

Unfortunately, I'm at a "big company" and we're not permitted that option. The DBA "must" install. We have a couple of lab machines, not on the corporate "server" network and I started an Oracle install there. I had one quick question for the DBA about a standards doc, and then she was on to me. After that, it went downhill quickly. Next time, I'll just do it the way I think it should be done.

The DBA did complement me that my install was exactly as she would have done it, but she owns it now. Even on the lab machine.

Glen Austin



New You have to remeber how we are organised
We have a business unit that does marketing databases.
He works "there".
We have a print unit that does direct mail.
I work "here".

I've probably got far more experience installing and maintaining Oracle instances than him, but I'm a busy guy, he's not, so I figured I could let him do it.

So I asked for his time up the chain, over the wall, down the chain.

He has no ownership of it, and when it crashes, it will fall to me to make it right.
     Job language choices - (broomberg) - (31)
         You should be using control tables. - (admin) - (2)
             Surely you meant to say "SmallTalk"? -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 you mean Smalltalk? -NT - (tuberculosis)
         typical DBA response - (boxley)
         Yeah, that calls for choice language. -NT - (Arkadiy)
         Someone else should carefully take him aside... - (ben_tilly) - (15)
             Won't happen - (broomberg) - (14)
                 Difference between can and should - (JayMehaffey)
                 Got it - (ben_tilly)
                 of course there is always room for sql queries - (boxley) - (3)
                     C w/ nested SQL - (broomberg) - (2)
                         Well there's the problem - (drewk) - (1)
                             He has Perl people - (broomberg)
                 I feel your pain re command-line/shell phobia - (Meerkat) - (7)
                     Now, I'm all weird on this. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                         I have my Happy Hacking keyboard here at work. - (static) - (3)
                             No good for me. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 I used a real VT320 for a while in a previous job. - (static) - (1)
                                     Re: I used a real VT320 for a while in a previous job. - (pwhysall)
                     Us Old-timers report: - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Ctrl-= - subscript Ctrl-+ - superscript - (Arkadiy)
         <Pssst.> - (Another Scott)
         Who does have the responsibility to pick language? - (tablizer) - (2)
             Not a chance - (broomberg) - (1)
                 But he's *got* a good reason - (drewk)
         After reading the whole thread.... - (gdaustin) - (5)
             There is no THEY - (broomberg) - (4)
                 Ugh. -NT - (imric)
                 ya dinna cluster unless directed to do so explicitly -NT - (boxley)
                 Yes there is... - (gdaustin) - (1)
                     You have to remeber how we are organised - (broomberg)

I'm gonna grab you by your Supercut and shake you like a fresh glowstick!
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