Post #177,174
9/30/04 12:39:29 PM
9/30/04 12:42:08 PM
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Thanks for reminding me
I agree, he should have left right away, but I also think that might have scared the kids more, unless they could have made an excuse that wouldn't have scared them... like something simple, "Sorry, the President is urgently needed elsewhere." or something, but surely not telling those kids about the planes. Even the word urgently might have scared them, I don't know.
maybe they were all so thrown into chaos they didn't know what the best move was? Hindsight is always 20/20.
Anyway, thanks for the info, like I said, I used to have it all memorized.
Brenda
Nightowl >8#
Edit: P.S. And if by tasting the koolaid you mean he saw Farhenheit 9/11, I haven't, because I didn't see it.
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Edited by Nightowl
Sept. 30, 2004, 12:42:08 PM EDT
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Post #177,176
9/30/04 12:51:46 PM
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"Scared them"?
eh?
What's wrong with "Sorry, children, but something extremely important has come up and I have to leave right away."?
Peter
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Post #177,180
9/30/04 12:57:08 PM
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Yeah, that's even better
I was trying to think of something better like that, but words like urgent kept coming up. I'm not thinking very fast today, lots on my mind, sorry. :)
That would have worked I think, just fine.
Brenda
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends."
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Post #177,183
9/30/04 1:06:49 PM
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Silly question for you
You keep on being concerned about whether the kids got scared.
How many of those kids do you think found out what happened anyways, and got scared despite Bush trying to protect them?
Wondering,
Ben
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Post #177,184
9/30/04 1:10:05 PM
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Not silly
You keep on being concerned about whether the kids got scared. How many of those kids do you think found out what happened anyways, and got scared despite Bush trying to protect them? Wondering, Oh I'm sure all of them got scared. I just meant, that maybe they should be told in a better manner than he might have managed, maybe with the teachers there telling them, or even bringing their parents to the school to tell them. Otherwise he might have left a room full of panicked children with the teachers trying to handle it. Just my thoughts, that a parent might have been the better choice to explain it to their own child. Nightowl >8#
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Post #177,190
9/30/04 1:37:21 PM
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If that really was Bush's reasoning
Then I'd want him out of office even more than I do now.
Pardon me for pointing out the obvious, but nobody whose sense of perspective is that out of whack should be making life and death decisions for a country. But then again anybody who is unable to find a stock excuse for leaving a room would fail miserably in politics.
Regards,
Ben
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Post #177,225
9/30/04 3:43:59 PM
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No, the person who should be leading the country
is someone like mmoffitt, who repeatedly stated that the current crop of "Western Civilization" is worthless and should be promptly sacrificed. Not a guy who is suspect of thinking about a roomful of children.
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... a reference to Presidente Arbusto.
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Post #177,227
9/30/04 3:49:57 PM
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Not to put too fine a point on it
I think he should have headed out immediately. Considering the scale of what was happening, and the very real ways he could have cut it short without freaking them out, he should have gotten to work.
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Post #177,242
9/30/04 6:00:20 PM
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Not "worthless", just unfairly distributed ;-p
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #177,194
9/30/04 1:50:29 PM
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Why are you so concerned about this?
Seems ridiculous to me.
Peter
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Post #177,195
9/30/04 1:54:19 PM
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Not really sure
But maybe it's because I, as an adult, was scared more than I can imagine by the events of 9/11 so maybe I figure the kids would have been scared even more than that...
It's not so much of a concern, as we were speculating why Bush waited 7 minutes before leaving, and I guessed maybe it was to not upset the kids routine and scare them.
I don't know, maybe he even used that 7 minutes to think and wasn't really listening to the kids by that point?
Nightowl >8#
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Post #177,196
9/30/04 2:00:49 PM
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Strange
I wasn't particularly scared by the WTC stuff. Pissed off, yes, but not scared.
'Course, if I'd been in the immediate environs, that would've been different.
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Post #177,200
9/30/04 2:11:29 PM
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Well, it was mostly the imagery
How to explain this...
First of all, I have Panic Anxiety, which tends to exaggerate fears even though I work hard at preventing it.
also, the imagery is what does it. I see the image of the plane hitting the building, and I saw it all day and for weeks. I then have this image stuck in my head, along with maybe whatever others, such as the building collapsing.
So then the plane becomes the fear, so every time I hear a plane, I jump, and then when I go to bed I "see a plane" crashing into my house.
It took a long time, but I got past it. This is a reason I don't see movies with vivid imagery or unexpected scenes that make you jump, (for example, horror movies or thriller ones), and why I watch CSI in the daytime with John describing in a play by play the parts I absolutely can not watch.
Hope that helps explain it.
Brenda
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Post #177,204
9/30/04 2:41:38 PM
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How about if you thought that they might try to target you?
The zig-zag path that Bush took through the rest of the day indicates that he was at least somewhat concerned about personal risk.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #177,210
9/30/04 2:52:33 PM
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Wasn't talking about Bush
was talking about Owl.
For Bush to be concerned about that strikes me as completely reasonable.
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