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Post #177,196
by jake123
9/30/04 2:00:49 PM
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New Strange
I wasn't particularly scared by the WTC stuff. Pissed off, yes, but not scared.

'Course, if I'd been in the immediate environs, that would've been different.
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Post #177,200
by Nightowl
9/30/04 2:11:29 PM
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New Well, it was mostly the imagery
How to explain this...

First of all, I have Panic Anxiety, which tends to exaggerate fears even though I work hard at preventing it.

also, the imagery is what does it. I see the image of the plane hitting the building, and I saw it all day and for weeks. I then have this image stuck in my head, along with maybe whatever others, such as the building collapsing.

So then the plane becomes the fear, so every time I hear a plane, I jump, and then when I go to bed I "see a plane" crashing into my house.

It took a long time, but I got past it. This is a reason I don't see movies with vivid imagery or unexpected scenes that make you jump, (for example, horror movies or thriller ones), and why I watch CSI in the daytime with John describing in a play by play the parts I absolutely can not watch.

Hope that helps explain it.

Brenda


"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends."
(Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
Post #177,204
by ben_tilly
9/30/04 2:41:38 PM
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New How about if you thought that they might try to target you?
The zig-zag path that Bush took through the rest of the day indicates that he was at least somewhat concerned about personal risk.

Cheers,
Ben
About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra
Post #177,210
by jake123
9/30/04 2:52:33 PM
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New Wasn't talking about Bush
was talking about Owl.

For Bush to be concerned about that strikes me as completely reasonable. 
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     super ROFL! Bush on O'Reilly - (daemon) - (47) - Sept. 29, 2004, 08:15:35 PM EDT
         He was also on Dr. Phil today - (Nightowl) - Sept. 29, 2004, 08:17:47 PM EDT
         I believe it all, actually - (GBert) - (45) - Sept. 29, 2004, 08:43:59 PM EDT
             Disagree on 911 - (daemon) - (2) - Sept. 29, 2004, 08:47:56 PM EDT
                 He wasn't speaking to them -- he was *listening* -NT - (GBert) - Sept. 29, 2004, 08:50:41 PM EDT
                 Wrong - (deSitter) - Sept. 29, 2004, 09:55:00 PM EDT
             Y'all have no idea whats inside AF One, do you? - (bepatient) - (41) - Sept. 30, 2004, 08:05:07 AM EDT
                 Even inside that classroom? - (GBert) - (40) - Sept. 30, 2004, 08:30:15 AM EDT
                     Excuse me? - (bepatient) - (39) - Sept. 30, 2004, 08:54:32 AM EDT
                         It was my understanding - (Nightowl) - (37) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:21:52 AM EDT
                             Oh stop. - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:45:18 AM EDT
                                 Re: Oh stop. - (Nightowl) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:50:56 AM EDT
                             He wasn't reading to them - (ben_tilly) - (34) - Sept. 30, 2004, 12:11:23 PM EDT
                                 I do remember - (Nightowl) - (33) - Sept. 30, 2004, 12:16:30 PM EDT
                                     After plane #2. - (bepatient) - (32) - Sept. 30, 2004, 12:29:57 PM EDT
                                         Thanks for reminding me - (Nightowl) - (14) - Sept. 30, 2004, 12:42:08 PM EDT
                                             "Scared them"? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 12:51:46 PM EDT
                                                 Yeah, that's even better - (Nightowl) - Sept. 30, 2004, 12:57:08 PM EDT
                                             Silly question for you - (ben_tilly) - (11) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:06:49 PM EDT
                                                 Not silly - (Nightowl) - (10) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:10:05 PM EDT
                                                     If that really was Bush's reasoning - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:37:21 PM EDT
                                                         No, the person who should be leading the country - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:43:59 PM EDT
                                                             Not to put too fine a point on it - (jake123) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:49:57 PM EDT
                                                             Not "worthless", just unfairly distributed ;-p -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 30, 2004, 06:00:20 PM EDT
                                                     Why are you so concerned about this? - (pwhysall) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:50:29 PM EDT
                                                         Not really sure - (Nightowl) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:54:19 PM EDT
                                                             Strange - (jake123) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2004, 02:00:49 PM EDT
                                                                 Well, it was mostly the imagery - (Nightowl) - Sept. 30, 2004, 02:11:29 PM EDT
                                                                 How about if you thought that they might try to target you? - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 02:41:38 PM EDT
                                                                     Wasn't talking about Bush - (jake123) - Sept. 30, 2004, 02:52:33 PM EDT
                                         You're usually better with facts than this - (ben_tilly) - (16) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:32:06 PM EDT
                                             Actually, I saw it on regular TV - (Nightowl) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2004, 01:39:29 PM EDT
                                                 Just when I think that you cannot flabbergast me again... - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2004, 02:40:02 PM EDT
                                                     Ben, did I get it right? (read all the way to the bottom) - (Nightowl) - (4) - Oct. 1, 2004, 12:23:59 PM EDT
                                                         Yes -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2004, 12:40:02 PM EDT
                                                             Allright! - (Nightowl) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2004, 12:47:06 PM EDT
                                                                 Don't consider it an accomplishment - I expected more -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2004, 02:58:22 PM EDT
                                                                     Well I do anyway - (Nightowl) - Oct. 1, 2004, 08:58:53 PM EDT
                                             7 minutes. - (bepatient) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:01:58 PM EDT
                                                 Would have made a difference - (hnick) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 02:59:55 PM EDT
                                                     Um. Ok. - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:02:53 PM EDT
                                                         I'm just lazy - (hnick) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:12:22 PM EDT
                                                 7 minutes... More than enuf time... - (ChrisR) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:04:54 PM EDT
                                                     Maybe thats what he was thinking. - (bepatient) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:05:58 PM EDT
                                                 Why are you complaining to me? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:42:53 PM EDT
                                                     Apologies. - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:52:57 PM EDT
                                                         That's odd - (Nightowl) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:20:08 PM EDT
                         Here's a timeline - (GBert) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:39:03 PM EDT

Well first you have to wipe the yak butter off.
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