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Post #16,853 by jb4 11/6/01 12:57:33 PM 11/6/01 12:58:02 PM Reply	Not not fine I wouldn't. You do have other options available, as hard as they might be. That doesn't decrease Microsoft's monopoly position - but it does mean that you don't have to buy their product(s). Ad, I'm more than surprised. Are you trumpetting the myth that there is no Micros~1 tax? That I can buy a naked-PC from the manufacturer of my choice? (That would have been Gateway until they stopped offering Athlon processors, BTW...) Or that I can buy a PC pre-loaded with the OS(es) and application(s, or lack thereof) of my choice? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...) Edited by jb4 Nov. 6, 2001, 12:58:02 PM EST Expand All History
Post #16,934 by addison 11/6/01 4:13:07 PM Reply	Not^3 fine Are you trumpetting the myth that there is no Micros~1 tax? Nope. That I can buy a naked-PC from the manufacturer of my choice? (That would have been Gateway until they stopped offering Athlon processors, BTW...) Or that I can buy a PC pre-loaded with the OS(es) and application(s, or lack thereof) of my choice? Not at all. You've misunderstood what a "monopoly" is. Microsoft is a monopoly not because you can't pick any PC of your choice. Even if they weren't a monpoly, that doesn't mean you could pick the PC of your choice with the OS of your choice. VA linux, for instance, refused to preload BSD. Gateway might not ship anything but RedHat, so Karsten, wouldn't be able to buy from them, etc. But you can buy a PC, without Windows. You can replace Windows (though that's still paying the tax, its not requiring any other investement, etc). You stated there was NO competition, nothing else, and that's not true, either. Linux, FreeBSD, and whatever OS/2 is this week are competitors. Their lack of market penetration is what (helps) define Microsoft AS a monopoly. Addison
Post #17,040 by Ashton 11/6/01 7:20:06 PM Reply	I am so glad that you have explained that the Marketing Model is perfect and everything is operating like a well-Oiled Machine. Nothing has gone wrong.. gone wrong.. gone It's just all those ignorant non-Economists who imagine that there just might be something .... which has.. gone wrong.. gone wrong.. with that Model of Reality\ufffd. (It couldn't be possible for The Model Itself to have severe errors within. Of course - everyone Knows That!) Still.. Oh Well, perhaps those Celestial Market Forces shall eventually in a decade or two or three? demonstrate the validity of this wondrous Model of Reality. We'll be able to celebrate the bankruptcy of Billy IV in June of 2119, thus vindicating the existence of Market Forces. After all. We must all learn to Be Patient, I see, in order to fully appreciate the Wonderfulness of these Concepts. OTOH if we'd prefer Not to live in that logical-fantasy numerical universe, and prefer one with non-robotic humans present too (and actually living a life) Wake me...

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